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louie6332
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Tragic, you say: “As pointed out earlier in this thread, the 2.3 trillion was not missing, but simply couldn't be accounted for.” Well Tragic, if it can’t be accounted for how do you know it wasn’t stolen? Aren’t you presuming here?
Your premise here is that the government would never, ever steal from us. Another presumption. Laughable.
Louie
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Tragic, you say: “As pointed out earlier in this thread, the 2.3 trillion was not missing, but simply couldn't be accounted for.” Well Tragic, if it can’t be accounted for how do you know it wasn’t stolen? Aren’t you presuming here?
How do you know it wasn't stolen, aren't you presuming? I love the irony on these forums
Your premise here is that the government would never, ever steal from us. Another presumption. Laughable.
Louie
No one has ever suggested the government would never steal. Just more retarded rhetoric from this site's favorite mental patient.
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7/29/2015 9:34:25 PM |
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tragicparrot
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Tragic, you say: “As pointed out earlier in this thread, the 2.3 trillion was not missing, but simply couldn't be accounted for.” Well Tragic, if it can’t be accounted for how do you know it wasn’t stolen? Aren’t you presuming here?
Your premise here is that the government would never, ever steal from us. Another presumption. Laughable.
Louie
Who said the government would never steal? Not me. The 2.3 trill was accounted for Louie. Unless you can show proof it was stolen, either follow the link, or go read a book or whatever. Linky...
http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Missing_Trillions
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7/29/2015 10:29:18 PM |
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srv63
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Who said the government would never steal? Not me. The 2.3 trill was accounted for Louie. Unless you can show proof it was stolen, either follow the link, or go read a book or whatever. Linky...
http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Missing_Trillions
Let me guess, magical cooked books turned up accounting for the $2.3 trillion right after the missile made a hole thru the wall at the pentacon and the people doing the investigation were having a one way trip to the morgue
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7/30/2015 12:35:09 AM |
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Thank you Louie, what you just posted makes perfect sense. Why the hell on earth would some IDIOT design a building with explosive and flammable shit alongside humans that are working? especially in this day and time with the STRICTEST safety measures. Hell, both trade towers were fixing to have to have ALL of the insulation removed because it contained ASBESTOS which would have cost the new jew owner MILLIONS until the BENEFICIAL collapse of the towers.
Let the shills post their BULLSHIT from their feeble nist report, the same nist report that REAL PROFESSIONALS label as BULLSHIT as well. We know the real truth don't we
Thank you Louie? You mean you couldn't find anything to counter my post yourself?
If you bothered researching, WHICH YOU NOR LOUIE have done, you will find that louie ONCE AGAIN is lying, totally wrong and needs certifying as a lunatic.
There were generators in Building 7, they need diesel fuel to run. The MAIN tank was stored underground, day tanks were needed each containing 125 gallons.
Look, stupid, this is about Skyscrapers, you know, TALL buildings? You are so f**king stupid and so easily debunked and you see SRV, this is how and why your man heard explosions and why the floor beneath him crumbled.
NOT BECAUSE OF EXPLOSIVES YOU DUMB FOOL.
A mechanical floor, mechanical penthouse, or mechanical level is a story of a high-rise building that is dedicated to mechanical and electronics equipment. "Mechanical" is the most commonly used term, but words such as utility, technical, service, and plant are also used. They are present in all tall buildings including the world's tallest skyscrapers with significant structural, mechanical and aesthetics concerns.
While most buildings have mechanical rooms, typically in the basement, tall buildings require dedicated floors throughout the structure for this purpose, for a variety of reasons discussed below. Because they use up valuable floor area (just like elevator shafts), engineers try to minimize the number of mechanical floors while allowing for sufficient redundancy in the services they provide. As a rule of thumb, skyscrapers require a mechanical floor for every 10 tenant floors (10%) although this percentage can vary widely (see examples below). In some buildings they are clustered in groups that divide the building into blocks, in others they are spread evenly through the structure, while in others still they are mostly concentrated at the top.
Besides structural support and elevator management, the primary purpose of mechanical floors is heating, ventilation and air-conditioning, and other services. They contain electrical generators, chiller plants, water pumps, and so on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_floor
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7/30/2015 12:43:53 AM |
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Uh Retard, i'm also talking about the twin towers. Pay less attention in your gay porno sites and a little more time researching and you would already have known which buildings i was referring to
Retard?
Listen up you liar:
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WTC AND MR JENNINGS, so stop with the bullshit and evasion.
You have been given a reason why there were explosions and why the floors beneath collapsed.
Admit it, once again, you have been debunked and an explanation given and then further proven that ALL tall buildings have Generators.
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7/30/2015 12:47:48 AM |
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higgy51
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After re-reading the posts, it is clear that Louie was posting facts about the generators in both the twin towers being in the BASEMENT AND the fact that the generators in WTC7 were also in the BASEMENT. Are you keeping up now creampuff?
No they were not in the basement of WTC7, as already stated to you.
TWO were on the 5th floor.
Mechanical equipment was installed on floors four through seven, including 12 transformers on the 5th floor. Several emergency generators installed in the building were used by the Office of Emergency Management, Salomon Smith Barney, and other tenants.
Two generators of 900Kw each were located on the 5th floor and these generators were supplied by a 275 gallon day tank.
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7/30/2015 5:38:37 AM |
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tragicparrot
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Let me guess, magical cooked books turned up accounting for the $2.3 trillion right after the missile made a hole thru the wall at the pentacon and the people doing the investigation were having a one way trip to the morgue
You mean someone turned up 2.3 trill right after the Pentagon was hit? Tell us about this srv63.
What a Lame post..
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7/30/2015 9:08:18 AM |
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srv63
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Retard?
Listen up you liar:
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WTC AND MR JENNINGS, so stop with the bullshit and evasion.
You have been given a reason why there were explosions and why the floors beneath collapsed.
Admit it, once again, you have been debunked and an explanation given and then further proven that ALL tall buildings have Generators.
The fact that buildings have generators is not disputed. The locations of said generators is disputed to you fail shill
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7/30/2015 9:42:04 AM |
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srv63
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Retard?
Listen up you liar:
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WTC AND MR JENNINGS, so stop with the bullshit and evasion.
You have been given a reason why there were explosions and why the floors beneath collapsed.
Admit it, once again, you have been debunked and an explanation given and then further proven that ALL tall buildings have Generators.
If you would read my most recent posts,you would see that I already had addressed this matter. Senile much?
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7/30/2015 9:51:53 AM |
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No they were not in the basement of WTC7, as already stated to you.
TWO were on the 5th floor.
Mechanical equipment was installed on floors four through seven, including 12 transformers on the 5th floor. Several emergency generators installed in the building were used by the Office of Emergency Management, Salomon Smith Barney, and other tenants.
Two generators of 900Kw each were located on the 5th floor and these generators were supplied by a 275 gallon day tank.
Did you actually SEE the generators on the fifth floor higgy?Did you actually SEE the blueprints of the towers with a printed date of BEFORE 9/11?
I didn't thinnk so
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7/30/2015 12:20:14 PM |
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Did you actually SEE the generators on the fifth floor higgy?Did you actually SEE the blueprints of the towers with a printed date of BEFORE 9/11?
I didn't thinnk so
I cannot believe that you have posted this.
Are you really being serious in this post?
You ask if I actually SAW the generators. Incredible.
Talk about desperation.
If you wish to play this stupid game, ask Louie if he actually saw generators and diesel tanks underground.
You are one sad individual for even ASKING that sort of question.
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7/30/2015 1:43:27 PM |
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Did you actually SEE the generators on the fifth floor higgy?Did you actually SEE the blueprints of the towers with a printed date of BEFORE 9/11?
I didn't thinnk so
Did you actually see the fuselage?
Did you actually see the engine at Murray Street?
Did you actually hear the explosions Jennings heard?
Did you actually see the floor disappear from under his feet?
See just how f**king stupid your question was?
You are one mental retard.
To save some face, please do look at ANY skyscraper design and you will see that each one, every one of them has a 'mechanical floor'.
Seriously though, do you REALLY wonder why you idiots are laughed at when you come out with real stupid questions like that?
Can't you really see that by asking that one stupid question, you are debunking your own side for 99.99999% of them weren't even in NY on that day, so they cannot say that they saw or heard anything....ergo, it didn't happen.
Folks, I can really say that now, this idiot has really closed this thread because of the following reason:
UNLESS YOU WERE ACTUALLY THERE, YOU CANNOT HAVE OR OFFER ANY EVIDENCE.
What a retard.
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Let me guess, magical cooked books turned up accounting for the $2.3 trillion right after the missile made a hole thru the wall at the pentacon and the people doing the investigation were having a one way trip to the morgue
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If it looks like Rambo [ missile ] makes a hole like Rambo [ missile ] it probably is Rambo [ missile ] Now.....................if 9-11 was indeed an inside job conducted and orchestrated and then covered up by the US Govt.---------- then one would assume the feds would fire the missile at that part of the Pentacon that had all the accounting stuff. That way......if some dual US/Israeli citizens stole the 2.3 trillion [ well, much of it anyway ] [Dov Zakheim Pentacon comptroller in charge of the missing 2.3 trillion ] there would be no trace that Dov stole it.
ON 9-10.......Rumsfeld went on tv and said the Pentacon couldnt account for 2.3 trillion dollas....the next day [ Dov was out of the office hmnnnnnnnn just like lucky Larry Silverstein who hadnt missed a day in a long time hmnnnnnnnnnn ]
Seems kind of haphazard, like the fix was in huh???
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class5
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Tragic, you say: “As pointed out earlier in this thread, the 2.3 trillion was not missing, but simply couldn't be accounted for.” Well Tragic, if it can’t be accounted for how do you know it wasn’t stolen? Aren’t you presuming here?
Your premise here is that the government would never, ever steal from us. Another presumption. Laughable.
Louie
It was merely an accounting problem and it was resolved. Cheney announced the deficiency in funds on television and how the differing accounting systems were being rectified. The money was never actually 'missing'.
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7/30/2015 5:08:20 PM |
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class5
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We been discussing allot of crap shill. Try to keep up or i'm telling your mommy to reinstate your early bed time
F**king Lying Douchebag.
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7/30/2015 5:09:39 PM |
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class5
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Look creampuff, i'm not gonna spoon feed you every step of the way until your able to finally see the big picture. That's what your mommy is for so shush while the grown ups talk
So you shifted the goal posts like the piece of shit you are? No biggie, all you truther liars do that.
You don't have the IQ to spoon feed me anything Liar.
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7/30/2015 5:10:55 PM |
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class5
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After re-reading the posts, it is clear that Louie was posting facts about the generators in both the twin towers being in the BASEMENT AND the fact that the generators in WTC7 were also in the BASEMENT. Are you keeping up now creampuff?
More lies. Louie interjected in the Jennings argument and I called you and him on his mistakes. It's no surprise that you can't own your shit because you're a lying coward.
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7/30/2015 5:13:09 PM |
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class5
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I cannot believe that you have posted this.
Are you really being serious in this post?
You ask if I actually SAW the generators. Incredible.
Talk about desperation.
If you wish to play this stupid game, ask Louie if he actually saw generators and diesel tanks underground.
You are one sad individual for even ASKING that sort of question.
This shithead is desperate. How many times have we caught this piece of shit lying?
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class5
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So SRV is clearly a liar. Louie tells stories like 57, and Fun is obviously bored with the details as they aren't anti-Semitic. We really need some decent opponents who know how to debate, and have some knowledge of the subject.
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7/30/2015 5:42:53 PM |
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class5
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Did you actually SEE the generators on the fifth floor higgy?Did you actually SEE the blueprints of the towers with a printed date of BEFORE 9/11?
I didn't thinnk so
Did you really have the temerity to post that? Aren't you ever embarrassed by your own posts?
Have you seen the thermite? No.
Have you seen the tin fuselage? No.
Have you seen the primer? No.
You just post the first dumb thing that reverberates through your empty head.
9/11 truth: Dumbing down reality for 14 years.
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7/30/2015 6:18:27 PM |
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It was merely an accounting problem and it was resolved. Cheney announced the deficiency in funds on television and how the differing accounting systems were being rectified. The money was never actually 'missing'.
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Your full of shit as usual. One guy was in charge of tracking some of that money and his boss said " Forgetabboutit " The guy said " Sheesh......All Im doing is just trying to do my job " Now ........if the boss told him.....you can bet the boss told all the other little guys trying to do THEIR jobs too.
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7/30/2015 6:21:23 PM |
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differing accounting systems were being rectified.
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Yeah right, rectified right up your phony false excused ass
The king of hollow, phony, nonsensical excuses.........tragic. 52 year old man who thinks 19 Arab hijackers pulled off the biggie
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7/30/2015 6:38:07 PM |
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tragicparrot
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differing accounting systems were being rectified.
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Yeah right, rectified right up your phony false excused ass
The king of hollow, phony, nonsensical excuses.........tragic. 52 year old man who thinks 19 Arab hijackers pulled off the biggie
This, coming from someone who can't even get my age correct. Talk about pathetic.
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progrocknic
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The government is so powerful they were able to pull this off, but they allow conspiracy websites to exist and offer evidence and gain members and take donations....... It takes a special kind of idiot to think they would pull this off and allow these websites to exist.
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7/30/2015 6:44:41 PM |
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sorry I got you mixed up with the other kiddy
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Quote from progrocknic:
The government is so powerful they were able to pull this off, but they allow conspiracy websites to exist and offer evidence and gain members and take donations....... It takes a special kind of idiot to think they would pull this off and allow these websites to exist.
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I suspect they run many of the leading sites, and populate them with false and misleading info.
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7/30/2015 6:46:20 PM |
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Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Commander of Aircraft Maintenance and Logistics.
Aircraft Accident Investigator. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College. 34-year Air Force career.
Licensed commercial pilot. Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.
Founding Signer Commissioned and Non-commissioned U.S. Military Officers petition calling for a new investigation of 9/11
Personal statement of support:
"In my first position paper, titled The Precautionary Principle, [see below] written shortly after the attacks on NYC and the Pentagon, I cautioned readers against a rush to judgment, although the immediate evidence suggested the crime had been an inside job. As the years went by, a virtual mountain of physical evidence was collected by hundreds of highly qualified investigators -- evidence sufficient to convince any dedicated Grand Jury that the horrendous events of 9/11 were clearly an inside job. The Precautionary Principle no longer applies. It is time to positively conclude that a well-orchestrated and obviously pre-planned cover-up of the worst mass murder in our country's history began immediately following the deaths of 3,000 innocent people on September 11, 2001. Nearly nine years later the criminal cover-up continues. Fortunately for our country, our judicial system provides no statute of limitations for treason, first degree murder, and terrorism."
Essay Aircraft Parts and the Precautionary Principle:
"In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. ...
The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. …
With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. …
As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history." http://www.physics911.net
http://www.mo911truth.org/
Go ahead and rip these military officers who are true Patriots.....not cowardly sheeple
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progrocknic
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Quote from progrocknic:
The government is so powerful they were able to pull this off, but they allow conspiracy websites to exist and offer evidence and gain members and take donations....... It takes a special kind of idiot to think they would pull this off and allow these websites to exist.
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I suspect they run many of the leading sites, and populate them with false and misleading info.
You saw what happened when Snowden released secrets. That's the reaction the government gives when their corruption is exposed.
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"In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. ...
The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. …
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The man has been in the Air Force for 34 years!!!!!! He knows a hell of alot more than any of us do. I'll take his word that he knows more about plane crash investigations than any of us do [ even the 2 idiots that did the Popular Mechanics propaganda film ]
GO ahead kids........rip this guy or at least go to some gooberment site that has lots of planted fake pieces of some plane they picked up from an elephant graveyard. In fact...thats all you can do...post some fake planted pics----as if the perps are gonna plant any huh???
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7/30/2015 7:09:06 PM |
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Cmon cl-ass
Show us that pic of Atta's passport in pristine condition, or that 7 ft. piece of a fuselage the feds painted AA on it or the piece [of what looked like it cam from a helicopter] on the Pentacon lawn, or that wrong engine the FBI dumped off on Murray street they carried out of the van parked nearby
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tragicparrot
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Cmon cl-ass
Show us that pic of Atta's passport in pristine condition, or that 7 ft. piece of a fuselage the feds painted AA on it or the piece [of what looked like it cam from a helicopter] on the Pentacon lawn, or that wrong engine the FBI dumped off on Murray street they carried out of the van parked nearby
Ah, this reminds me of one Major General Albert Stubblebine who at one time not only thought he could walk through walls, but expressed a need to the heads of the Special Forces at Fort Bragg, that they should train the troops to perform psychic healing, levitation, invisibility, and bursting the hearts of animals with their minds. If I remember correctly, he resigned in humiliation. I also recall one David Von Kleist who dropped Stubblebine’s esteemed name during an interview with Glenn Beck on CNN, as well as pointing to the testimony of retired Col. George Nelson, U.S. Air Force, as supporting his claims regarding 9/11.
Hmmm, tap tap tap tap.. Wonder what Col. Nelson had to say about Atta's passport, the 7ft piece of fuselage, the painted on AA, or the wrong engine purportedly dropped off on Murray St by the FBI?
Sorry 57channnels, I gotta get back to my little cookout.
Your turn.
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7/30/2015 8:51:16 PM |
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srv63
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Did you actually see the fuselage?
Did you actually see the engine at Murray Street?
Did you actually hear the explosions Jennings heard?
Did you actually see the floor disappear from under his feet?
See just how f**king stupid your question was?
You are one mental retard.
To save some face, please do look at ANY skyscraper design and you will see that each one, every one of them has a 'mechanical floor'.
Seriously though, do you REALLY wonder why you idiots are laughed at when you come out with real stupid questions like that?
Can't you really see that by asking that one stupid question, you are debunking your own side for 99.99999% of them weren't even in NY on that day, so they cannot say that they saw or heard anything....ergo, it didn't happen.
Folks, I can really say that now, this idiot has really closed this thread because of the following reason:
UNLESS YOU WERE ACTUALLY THERE, YOU CANNOT HAVE OR OFFER ANY EVIDENCE.
What a retard.
Look. Give me one good reason why the generators,transformers,diesel fuel or anything else would be on the fifth floor of all places. The building was 47 stories tall so if it must have a mechanical room for transformers,generators or whatever else,wouldn't it make better sense to put the mechanical room around the 23 floor (middle of the building) since the idiots didn't like the standard idea of putting it in the basement?
One more thing for you idiot shills to ponder is, Barry Jennings clearly heard explosions in WTC7 as well as the stairwell exploding out from under his feet BEFORE the north or south towers fell. According to your HORSESHIT nist report(notice no capitalization, it means no respect) debris from one of the towers as it was controlled demolitioned,hit WTC7 which in turn started the very small office fires and them office fires supposedly ignited the generators as well as the transformers as well as the supposed millions of gallons of diesel fuel and that supposedly explains the explosions that Mr. Barry Jennings heard.Problem is,Barry Jennings was already trapped inside WTC7 from the stairwell exploding out from beneath him BEFORE either tower was controlled demolishioned, therefore burning debris from the trade towers coming down COULD NOT] have started any fires in WTC7 therefore your nist report is BULLSHIT
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srv63
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Did you actually see the fuselage?
Did you actually see the engine at Murray Street?
Did you actually hear the explosions Jennings heard?
Did you actually see the floor disappear from under his feet?
See just how f**king stupid your question was?
You are one mental retard.
To save some face, please do look at ANY skyscraper design and you will see that each one, every one of them has a 'mechanical floor'.
Seriously though, do you REALLY wonder why you idiots are laughed at when you come out with real stupid questions like that?
Can't you really see that by asking that one stupid question, you are debunking your own side for 99.99999% of them weren't even in NY on that day, so they cannot say that they saw or heard anything....ergo, it didn't happen.
Folks, I can really say that now, this idiot has really closed this thread because of the following reason:
UNLESS YOU WERE ACTUALLY THERE, YOU CANNOT HAVE OR OFFER ANY EVIDENCE.
What a retard.
Did i actually see the fuselage? Answer is yes from your gooberment posting it as evidence to fool the masses.
Did i actually see the engine at Murray Street? Answer is yes again from the photo of it that your gooberment posted as evidence to fool the masses.
Did i hear the explosions that Barry Jennings heard inside of WTC7 or did i see the stairwell explode out from underneath his feet? Answer is no BUT if there is no reason to doubt his word then you have no choice but to believe his word until you find out otherwise, much the same as being a juror inside a courtroom. So in a sense, yes i did hear the explosions as well as see the stairwell explode
As far as mechanical floors in skyscrapers, yes all skyscrapers do have mechanical floors but do some research on where them mechanical floors are
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srv63
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The government is so powerful they were able to pull this off, but they allow conspiracy websites to exist and offer evidence and gain members and take donations....... It takes a special kind of idiot to think they would pull this off and allow these websites to exist.
If you would use that pea brain of yours, you would already know that the gooberments shutting down of the internet or trying to shut down opposing sites, would only open a can of nasty that your gooberment is afraid to deal with
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7/30/2015 10:31:49 PM |
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class5
Queensland
Australia
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differing accounting systems were being rectified.
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Yeah right, rectified right up your phony false excused ass
The king of hollow, phony, nonsensical excuses.........tragic. 52 year old man who thinks 19 Arab hijackers pulled off the biggie
Listen Fool, I can only tell you what is in the public domain, so trying to make it 'mine' is kind of stupid.
Of course, you can offer no rational and supported alternative.
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7/30/2015 10:42:04 PM |
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class5
Queensland
Australia
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Look. Give me one good reason why the generators,transformers,diesel fuel or anything else would be on the fifth floor of all places. The building was 47 stories tall so if it must have a mechanical room for transformers,generators or whatever else,wouldn't it make better sense to put the mechanical room around the 23 floor (middle of the building) since the idiots didn't like the standard idea of putting it in the basement?
Er, because they were. I posted the listing of the tenants and appliance levels earlier. Again for the inattentive:
Floor Tenant
46-47 Mechanical floors
28-45 Salomon Smith Barney (SSB)
26-27 Standard Chartered Bank
25 Inland Revenue Service (IRS)
25 Department of Defense (DOD)
25 Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
24 Inland Revenue Service (IRS)
23 Office of Emergency Management (OEM)
22 Federal Home Loan Bank of New York
21 First State Management Group
19-21 ITT Hartford Insurance Group
19 National Association of Insurance Commissioners (NAIC)
18 Equal Opportunity Commission (EEOC)
14-17 Vacant
13 Provident Financial Management
11-13 Securities and Exchange Commission
9-10 US Secret Service
7-8 American Express Bank International
7 OEM generators and day tank
6 Switchgear, storage
5 Switchgear, generators, transformers
4 Upper level of 3rd floor, switchgear
3 Lobby, SSB Conference Center, rentable space, manage
2 Open to first floor lobby, transformer vault upper level, upper level switchgear
1 Lobby, loading docks, existing Con Ed transformer vaults, fuel storage, lower level switchgear
Some people just don't know how to pay attention to the thread and stay up to speed I suppose.
"The object of conspiracy rhetoric is to bog down the discussion and not reach a conclusion" ~ Jay Windley
Yes, Jay, don't I know it!
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7/30/2015 10:43:35 PM |
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class5
Queensland
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If you would use that pea brain of yours, you would already know that the gooberments shutting down of the internet or trying to shut down opposing sites, would only open a can of nasty that your gooberment is afraid to deal with
What truther sites have been shut down? Some have gone silent with no activity, but none I know of have shut down, and I'm a member of more than a few.
I call this another lie.
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7/30/2015 10:47:22 PM |
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class5
Queensland
Australia
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According to your HORSESHIT nist report(notice no capitalization, it means no respect)
But you clearly stated that you haven't read it, therefore, you are in no position to comment.
Here you go:
http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/wtc_finalreports.cfm/
We'll see you in a few weeks, or with your limited vocabulary, a few months perhaps.
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7/30/2015 10:52:25 PM |
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class5
Queensland
Australia
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Cmon cl-ass
Show us that pic of Atta's passport in pristine condition, or that 7 ft. piece of a fuselage the feds painted AA on it or the piece [of what looked like it cam from a helicopter] on the Pentacon lawn, or that wrong engine the FBI dumped off on Murray street they carried out of the van parked nearby
So you found someone who is just as disengaged from reality as yourself?
So what? Some kook in the forces agrees with you? Just hang around Veteran's Today and you'll find many more. It's not as if kooks are rare or confined to a single walk of life.
What a childish line of reasoning. Oh well, no surprise there.
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7/31/2015 1:18:31 AM |
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higgy51
Navarro, CA
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Look. Give me one good reason why the generators,transformers,diesel fuel or anything else would be on the fifth floor of all places. The building was 47 stories tall so if it must have a mechanical room for transformers,generators or whatever else,wouldn't it make better sense to put the mechanical room around the 23 floor (middle of the building) since the idiots didn't like the standard idea of putting it in the basement?
I tell you what srv, you should read information posted and do some research yourself, it would stop you from looking more stupid than you already look.
Instead of accepting that transformers etc were located on the 5th floor, you once again, try a diversion tactic and yes, because they were on that floor, your Mr Jennings probably heard them blow up (explode) and the floor ABOVE would be affected.
So you see srv, this debunks your claim of explosives being needed or planted doesn't it?
Do take a look at the evidence posted by Class and also the information I posted for you too.
Now this has been debunked, whats the next on your agenda?
Oh, and still no proof that the fuselage was made of tin?
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7/31/2015 1:32:02 AM |
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higgy51
Navarro, CA
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Did i actually see the fuselage? Answer is yes from your gooberment posting it as evidence to fool the masses.
Did i actually see the engine at Murray Street? Answer is yes again from the photo of it that your gooberment posted as evidence to fool the masses.
Did i hear the explosions that Barry Jennings heard inside of WTC7 or did i see the stairwell explode out from underneath his feet? Answer is no BUT if there is no reason to doubt his word then you have no choice but to believe his word until you find out otherwise, much the same as being a juror inside a courtroom. So in a sense, yes i did hear the explosions as well as see the stairwell explode
As far as mechanical floors in skyscrapers, yes all skyscrapers do have mechanical floors but do some research on where them mechanical floors are
So, from seeing the photo publish, you can deduce and see that it was made of tin? You are magical.
I have done research on where the mechanical floors are...I posted it for you, silly boy. Do you have a problem in reading information?
As you will see below, the worlds largest skyscraper also have mechanical floors spread out and not just in the middle.
The Burj in Dubai, 154 useable floors, NINE maintenance levels
160-206 Mechanical
156-159 Transmission
155 Mechanical
139-154 Office
136-138 Mechanical
125-135 Office
124 Observatory
111-123 Office
109-110 Mechanical
76-108 Residential
73-75 Mechanical
43-72 Residential
40-42 Mechanical
19-39 Hotel
17-18 Mechanical
5-16 Hotel
4 Hotel, Mechanical
3 Hotel, restaurant
2 Hotel, lobby
1 Hotel, lobby, restaurant
Concourse Restaurant, lobby
B1-B2 Parking, Mechanical
The NEW WTC :
Ready to READ and understand srv?
• The building now officialy 105 Floors tall, instead of 82. The base will occupy floors 1 - 19, Floors 20 - 63 will be offices, floor 64 will be a skylobby, floors 65 - 88 will also be offices. Floors 89 - 99 will be Mechanical floors, floors 100 - 102 will be used for Observation and other public uses. Floors 103 - 105 will then be more Mechanical Floors.
So you see srv, they just don't "STICK" MECHANICAL ROOMS IN THE MIDDLE!!!
CASE CLOSED, OFFICIALLY DEBUNKED AS TO THE REASONS WHY JENNINGS HEARD EXPLOSIONS - THE GENERATORS ETC.
Next?
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7/31/2015 6:42:39 AM |
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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If you would use that pea brain of yours, you would already know that the gooberments shutting down of the internet or trying to shut down opposing sites, would only open a can of nasty that your gooberment is afraid to deal with
I don't know if its you or 57channels who's proved himself the all time imbecile but this post tops the list. Type in any 911 search query and what will you likely come up with? ... 911 FALSE FLAG! > 911 INSIDE JOB! > 911 WHO DID IT? > ... not to mention all the BS on Youtube. Why is this? Because after 14 years nobody's ever provided legitimate evidence 911 was an inside job! ... Well, except for Col. Nelson and his secret orbs.
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7/31/2015 11:04:53 AM |
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57channels
Bettendorf, IA
64, joined May. 2008
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Hey class
I noticed your using these emoticons slot now. I'm guessing your using them to try to make yourself believe in the propaganda that you are expousing.after years of saying stuff you really don't believe and your gets so sick of not being able to look in the mirror by using these emoticons now you're trying to convince yourself that what you're saying is right so your conscience can rest easy.
I think it would be a tough job to do this week after week month after month year after year and not believe one word you're saying
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7/31/2015 11:35:28 AM |
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funwithmusic
Chapel Hill, NC
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If you would use that pea brain of yours, you would already know that the gooberments shutting down of the internet or trying to shut down opposing sites, would only open a can of nasty that your gooberment is afraid to deal with
THE BEST WAY TO CONTROL THE OPPOSITION.....
IS TO LEAD IT....
Quote from Bolshevik Communist Jew..Vladimir Lenin....
THEY shut down the opposition..and fill the air with their fables and lies as ALL MEDIA IS CONTROLLED BY THEM..and now they seek control over the Internet.....for the feeble minded like these we oppose here on DH to consume..
WHO CONTROLS THE MEDIA?
thezog.wordpress
None so blind than those who refuse to see the truth...
What these Bolsheviks did to Russia..they are now doing to the Americans.....
Using their FABLE of being the CHOSEN OF GOD..to deceive many..(II Thess 2) if that were possible..AND IT WAS...
Im back for now..my puter has been down for over a week now...geesshh
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7/31/2015 12:09:41 PM |
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57channels
Bettendorf, IA
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Fun
Im back for now..my puter has been down for over a week now...geesshh
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I'm sure the Patriotic truth seekers have missed you. I know I have Miss Long too. We all need breaks from trying to wake up the kiddies. Its the fence sitters I want to wake up and see the evil behind the facade [ govt. false flags ]
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7/31/2015 3:52:10 PM |
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louie6332
Falkville, AL
73, joined Nov. 2011
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Class of the four stooges, I mean the four higgys, if you think the missing money from the Pentagon was ever “accounted for” then produce the link.
Concerning the standby generators in the towers, you suggest that the generators were responsive for the collapse of tower seven, although the order to PULL IT was given and recorded. Let me get this straight, the generator blew up at the exact moment that the order was given. Right? What an amazing coincidence! Will wonders never cease?
And the generators which were in the basement of the twin towers were also responsible for their collapse too. Right? Get real. All you really have to have to bring a building crumbling down into its own footprint is a container of diesel fuel. Right? Forget the Thermite and the careful placement and firing of shaped explosive charges and all that technical stuff. Right? Get real!
As already pointed out, although Diesel fuel will burn in open air, it does not explode, and does not release a large amount of flammable vapor, and yet, you are so desperate to find some cause of the towers crumbling, any cause whatsoever, that you grasp onto diesel fuel as the cause, like a drowning man grasping at straws. You’ve been listening to too many Government cover stories. Oh, I know, I know, you can’t trust God, but you can always trust the Government. Right? When it said it lies to the American people, it was just kidding right?
Tragic the Government parrot, you make fun of psychics and their proposed use in the military. Well, they did use them, and with some success. The Navy, for example, had such a program. And they were able to locate on a map underwater secret naval submarine bases for example. They also saw a catastrophe that would befall the United States in the future that would change the physical land mass of America. (We know that is an asteroid strike and its associated earthquake disaster that will cause the catastrophe). The famous naval map of the future United States on YouTube is a result of this effort. Be careful what you make fun of tragic the Government parrot.
Progrocknic, you say: “The government is so powerful they were able to pull this off, but they allow conspiracy websites to exist and offer evidence and gain members and take donations....... It takes a special kind of idiot to think they would pull this off and allow these websites to exist.” Progrocknic, they are planning to pull it off during their JADE HALM 15 exercise, which is ongoing now. Be careful what you wish for.
Louie
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7/31/2015 5:32:42 PM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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So, from seeing the photo publish, you can deduce and see that it was made of tin? You are magical.
I have done research on where the mechanical floors are...I posted it for you, silly boy. Do you have a problem in reading information?
As you will see below, the worlds largest skyscraper also have mechanical floors spread out and not just in the middle.
The Burj in Dubai, 154 useable floors, NINE maintenance levels
160-206 Mechanical
156-159 Transmission
155 Mechanical
139-154 Office
136-138 Mechanical
125-135 Office
124 Observatory
111-123 Office
109-110 Mechanical
76-108 Residential
73-75 Mechanical
43-72 Residential
40-42 Mechanical
19-39 Hotel
17-18 Mechanical
5-16 Hotel
4 Hotel, Mechanical
3 Hotel, restaurant
2 Hotel, lobby
1 Hotel, lobby, restaurant
Concourse Restaurant, lobby
B1-B2 Parking, Mechanical
The NEW WTC :
Ready to READ and understand srv?
• The building now officialy 105 Floors tall, instead of 82. The base will occupy floors 1 - 19, Floors 20 - 63 will be offices, floor 64 will be a skylobby, floors 65 - 88 will also be offices. Floors 89 - 99 will be Mechanical floors, floors 100 - 102 will be used for Observation and other public uses. Floors 103 - 105 will then be more Mechanical Floors.
So you see srv, they just don't "STICK" MECHANICAL ROOMS IN THE MIDDLE!!!
CASE CLOSED, OFFICIALLY DEBUNKED AS TO THE REASONS WHY JENNINGS HEARD EXPLOSIONS - THE GENERATORS ETC.
Next?
Uhhhh higgy, you never did explain why the generators supposedly on the fifth floor in building 7 exploded.
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8/1/2015 12:04:36 AM |
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higgy51
Navarro, CA
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Concerning the standby generators in the towers, you suggest that the generators were responsive for the collapse of tower seven, although the order to PULL IT was given and recorded. Let me get this straight, the generator blew up at the exact moment that the order was given. Right? What an amazing coincidence! Will wonders never cease?
No you stupid old fool. we are not suggesting the generators were responsible for the collapse. Had you been following the conversation, which is difficult for you, you would have known that we were discussing the explosions and why the floor below Jennings's feet probably collapsed, as they - the generators - were on the 5th floor, just below where Jennings was.
The explosions Jennings heard were from generators and transformers below him on Floor 5.
Please do and try to follow lines of conversation.
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8/1/2015 12:36:26 AM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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No you stupid old fool. we are not suggesting the generators were responsible for the collapse. Had you been following the conversation, which is difficult for you, you would have known that we were discussing the explosions and why the floor below Jennings's feet probably collapsed, as they - the generators - were on the 5th floor, just below where Jennings was.
The explosions Jennings heard were from generators and transformers below him on Floor 5.
Please do and try to follow lines of conversation.
Higgy,i can already see that you are fixing to get in way over your head here.You sound pretty confident and if i didn't know any better, you sound positive on exactly how the events unfolded to building 7.
Tell this dumb country boy what caused the generators or transformers on the 5th floor of building 7 to explode. Simple question
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8/1/2015 10:30:21 AM |
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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Higgy,i can already see that you are fixing to get in way over your head here.You sound pretty confident and if i didn't know any better, you sound positive on exactly how the events unfolded to building 7.
Tell this dumb country boy what caused the generators or transformers on the 5th floor of building 7 to explode. Simple question
Who knows what exploded in WTC7, none of us were inside the building except for Jennings and Hess, and neither stated they saw these explosions, only that they heard numerous explosions prior to its collapse. Tell us what evidence you have WTC7 was a controlled demolition, and why you attempted to suggest Jennings claimed to have seen these explosions when in fact he testified only to have heard them? See your post below...
By the way 3 1/2 stooges, i'm still waiting on your bullshit to debunk Barry Jennings EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY of EXPLOSIVES in WTC7
Seems rather odd Jennings and Hess could have survived had they been close enough to eyewitness the type of high explosives utilized in controlled demolitions.
Perhaps its you srv63 who should start answering some questions here.
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8/1/2015 11:11:52 AM |
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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Tragic the Government parrot, you make fun of psychics and their proposed use in the military. Well, they did use them, and with some success. The Navy, for example, had such a program. And they were able to locate on a map underwater secret naval submarine bases for example. They also saw a catastrophe that would befall the United States in the future that would change the physical land mass of America. (We know that is an asteroid strike and its associated earthquake disaster that will cause the catastrophe). The famous naval map of the future United States on YouTube is a result of this effort. Be careful what you make fun of tragic the Government parrot.
Louie
Yeah, reminds me of Sylvia Brown. Try this Louie... Ever wonder why you think this stuff is true? Answer: Because the government puts mind altering drugs in your water supply. From now on, I suggest you only purchase bottled water. But be sure to have it tested first, else you'll just never know...
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8/1/2015 11:14:17 AM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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Seems rather odd Jennings and Hess could have survived had they been close enough to eyewitness the type of high explosives utilized in controlled demolitions.
Perhaps its you srv63 who should start answering some questions here.
I guess my choice of words were just a bit in error. What i should have said is "By the way 3 1/2 stooges, i'm still waiting on your bullshit to debunk Barry Jennings EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY of EXPLOSIONS heard and seen in WTC7." Now you shills are going to say that Barry Jennings only "heard" explosions but correct me if i'm wrong, if someone hears an explosion and immediately afterwards the stairwell explodes out from underneath their feet, wouldn't that be the same as eyewitnessing an explosion? I believe everyone else that is not a payed shill would also agree
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8/1/2015 11:31:26 AM |
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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I guess my choice of words were just a bit in error. What i should have said is "By the way 3 1/2 stooges, i'm still waiting on your bullshit to debunk Barry Jennings EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY of EXPLOSIONS heard and seen in WTC7." Now you shills are going to say that Barry Jennings only "heard" explosions but correct me if i'm wrong, if someone hears an explosion and immediately afterwards the stairwell explodes out from underneath their feet, wouldn't that be the same as eyewitnessing an explosion? I believe everyone else that is not a payed shill would also agree
No, it would not. Example. Many of our service men/women would never had been injured or killed had they seen explosives ahead of time. Again, Barry Jennings never testified to having seen explosives, only that he heard them prior to the stairway collapse.
You lied about Jennings having seen explosives. Period.
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8/1/2015 12:12:48 PM |
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higgy51
Navarro, CA
61, joined Nov. 2012
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You lied about Jennings having seen explosives. Period.
Like always, he changes direction when he is well and truly debunked.
As you correctly say, Jennings NEVER said he SAW explosions, it is just srv scrambling to save his free fall over the precipice of "debunkdom"
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8/1/2015 2:08:44 PM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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No, it would not. Example. Many of our service men/women would never had been injured or killed had they seen explosives ahead of time. Again, Barry Jennings never testified to having seen explosives, only that he heard them prior to the stairway collapse.
You lied about Jennings having seen explosives. Period.
Look here idiot. I already said that I used the wrong word but you being the shill that you are, you are going to manipulate the situation and twist the FACTS. FACT is Barry Jennings heard and experienced the explosions first hand and there is not a Damn thing you or your a**hole buddies can say or do to change that fact. And fr your deceptive lying f**kin a** to call me a liar, bet your a** you would not say it in person
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8/1/2015 4:59:14 PM |
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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Look here idiot. I already said that I used the wrong word but you being the shill that you are, you are going to manipulate the situation and twist the FACTS. FACT is Barry Jennings heard and experienced the explosions first hand and there is not a Damn thing you or your a**hole buddies can say or do to change that fact. And fr your deceptive lying f**kin a** to call me a liar, bet your a** you would not say it in person
So which word was it you used here that was wrong?
I guess my choice of words were just a bit in error. What i should have said is "By the way 3 1/2 stooges, i'm still waiting on your bullshit to debunk Barry Jennings EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY of EXPLOSIONS heard and seen in WTC7." Now you shills are going to say that Barry Jennings only "heard" explosions but correct me if i'm wrong, if someone hears an explosion and immediately afterwards the stairwell explodes out from underneath their feet, wouldn't that be the same as eyewitnessing an explosion? I believe everyone else that is not a payed shill would also agree
Hearing or experiencing explosions is not the same as actually seeing them. Had Mr Jennings testified he had seen explosives, I find it hard to believe he would not have been encouraged to elaborate more on what type of explosives he saw. (funny how Dylan Avery never asked about that) Furthermore, given the nature of explosives used in controlled demolitions, I also find it hard to believe he would have survived had he been close enough to have actually seen them.
What part of this do you not understand srv63?
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8/1/2015 5:25:12 PM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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Hearing or experiencing explosions is not the same as actually seeing them. Had Mr Jennings testified he had seen explosives, I find it hard to believe he would not have been encouraged to elaborate more on what type of explosives he saw. (funny how Dylan Avery never asked about that) Furthermore, given the nature of explosives used in controlled demolitions, I also find it hard to believe he would have survived had he been close enough to have actually seen them.
What part of this do you not understand srv63?
So what your saying is that experiencing and seeing something is not the same?
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8/1/2015 5:31:25 PM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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Hearing or experiencing explosions is not the same as actually seeing them. Had Mr Jennings testified he had seen explosives, I find it hard to believe he would not have been encouraged to elaborate more on what type of explosives he saw. (funny how Dylan Avery never asked about that) Furthermore, given the nature of explosives used in controlled demolitions, I also find it hard to believe he would have survived had he been close enough to have actually seen them.
What part of this do you not understand srv63?
Look here dumb f**k. If i'm in a building and hear an explosion then the stairwell that i'm standing on disappears out from under my feet, THAT you moron is EXPERIENCING AND SEEING AN EXPLOSION!!!!! Are you so f**kin dense and hell bent on your single gooberment bullshit official story to refuse what the hell i'm trying to get across to your deceptive ass?
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8/1/2015 7:59:00 PM |
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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Allow me to explain. What you've attempted to do, is make it sound as though Mr Jennings had testified to having seen the actual explosives when in fact the only thing he testified to was the subsequent collapse of a stair well after having only heard an explosion. Please note the misleading context of your post which stated "EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY of EXPLOSIVES", when it should have otherwise stated "Eyewitness to an explosion".
By the way 3 1/2 stooges, i'm still waiting on your bullshit to debunk Barry Jennings EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY of EXPLOSIVES in WTC7
Your attempt at manipulated the context has failed. Once again, you are a liar. And a manipulator.
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