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class5
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So SRV thinks the US invaded Iraq before Afghanistan. He must have been on another planet at the time.
My God we are dealing with low-hanging fruit on this site. Even if that idiot is talking about the first Gulf War his claim is still erroneous, as the US did not invade Iraq during GF1.
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class5
Queensland
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A satire of Ae911T as posted on JREF by Telltale Tom:
Here are the Pillars of Evidence that have been the same for the last couple of years.
You have to remember that our members do not believe in all the evidence listed on our web site, they just have to believe in any of the evidence. I don't think that even Richard Gage believes in the squibs contributing to the failure, since it has been ridiculed so much, but I know some people still love them.
If you look at our web-site ae911truth.org, you will see that we list the top 14 reasons why WTC 1 and 2 collapsed. They are our Pillars of evidence, so to speak. However we have a stronger belief in some rather than others and it is easy to show which are the current favourites of ae911truth.
1. Destruction proceeds through the path of greatest resistance at nearly free-fall acceleration. This is still a major keystone of our argument.
2. Improbable symmetry of debris distribution We don't quite say that we would expect the building to fall over, as we would be subject to even more ridicule... but some of our members think that the building should have collapsed more like a tree and this statement keeps them happy.
3. Extremely rapid onset of destruction.
You will have noticed that we don't list the nearly free fall collapse thing in our headlines any more, ever since Richard declared it fell at 2/3rd's free-fall. We just leave the nearly free fall claims for our power points. We haven't speculated at what speed we thought it would collapse, because we know that steel buildings don't collapse in fire... or for any other reason for that matter.
4. Over 100 first responders reported explosions and flashes
Yes, we like to rely on the parts of the eye-witness testimonies that support the CD theory and that will continue to be a major part of our offering, although sadly none of the flashes were caught on camera. And we don't like the NYFD who say that they were describing large, sudden noises.
5. Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally
We like to keep this point as far away from the point that it collapsed within its own footprint.
6. Mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking Well that's gone quiet because no-one really understands what we mean by this and why its evidence of CD.
7. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds. That's pretty much in the same bag as item 6 above: we used to have a few slides in our presentation that described how much energy was given off ny the explosion... but it looked a bit mad. And since no-one really understands what we mean by pyroclastic the "pyroclastic-like" works for us. We now admit that the big bang that caused the explosive failure wasn't accompanied by any explosion type noise.
8. 1200-foot-dia. debris field: no "pancaked" floors found Yes we usually try and keep this point as far away from the first point; as if it did fall straight down, it would not also fall straight out
9. Isolated explosive ejections 20 – 40 stories below demolition front Yes this is the squibs thing and we don't talk about them much now, since there is little point in trying to weaken the building with squibs, if the building itself demonstrated it could survive the impact of a rather large plane and an explosion that was slightly larger than the squibs, at a much higher and weaker level.
10. Total building destruction: dismemberment of steel frame
Again this is a little embarrassing because if the splice joint had one twentieth of the strength of the element, is it surprising that most of the elements failed at the splice. So we don't talk about this so much either.
11. Several tons of molten metal found under all 3 high-rises Yes this seems to be a big point, but I don't get it really since we couldn't find the pools at the bottom of the towers...not very big ones anyway and not spread out like a pool. Perhaps the NYFD hid it. Nothing bigger than a chiller and even the chillers still looked like mechanical equipment
12. Evidence of thermite incendiaries found by FEMA in steel samples. This is one of our real strong points, since nobody really understand what we are talking about.
13. Evidence of explosives found in dust samples yes we really love this one, which is the same as 12
14. No precedent for steel-framed high-rise collapse due to fire. I guess that this is part of our most credible evidence: there have been no complete collapses from any other super tall tower that was hit by a large aircraft.
Nice!
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higgy51
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Louie. Comparing a solid tree to a mostly hollow building structure is about the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard of. These are the sort of comments that lead me to believe your better off being ignored. Seriously.
My thoughts entirely, 100%. I laughed so hard initially and then I felt sorry for the old man. One would have thought that after all his years, he would have some commonsense and logical thinking traits.
On another thread he is quoting YouTube video's of Obama's bc being fake....even the makers of the video's SAY that they are merely fun video's!
No, you are right Tragic, he is best ignored and not even worth the use of one of the limited "Quotes" we have!!
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higgy51
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Yes, please do look at his statement below will you, please do try to read it: I have HIGHLIGHTED his comments where needed, just to help you!
Sometime before 2008, during an interview with Loose Change filmmakers Jason Bermas and Dylan Avery, Jennings elaborated on the explosions he heard and felt in Building 7, saying (at the 5:45 mark):
“All this time, I’m hearing all kinds of explosions. All this time I’m hearing explosions. And I’m thinking that maybe it’s the uh, buses around me that were on fire, the cars that were on fire, but, I don’t see no [gesturing] you know, but I'm still hearing these explosions. When they [the rescuers] finally got to us, and they took us down, to what, what they, they, uh, called the lobby, because I asked them when we got down there I said, ‘Where are we?’ He said ‘This was the lobby.’ And I said, ‘You gotta be kidding me.’ Total ruins. Total ruins. Now keep in mind when I came in there, the lobby had nice escalators, it was a huge lobby. And for me to see what I saw, was unbelievable.”
"When they got to the 6th floor an explosion below blew them off and the landing beneath them gave way. They had to retreat to the 8th floor. It is important to emphasize that in every interview that he gave Jennings insisted that it was an explosion and that the explosion took place below them. "
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higgy51
Navarro, CA
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Hey Parrot, how about you tell us the width and depth as well as the THICKNESS
of the 47 main center support beams at the center of each tower
How about YOU SHOW US your proof of the tin fuselage muppet brain?
You like to demand answers, but are not forthcoming with others that ask you questions.
You will soon be ignored by the logical people as you are one that demands answers to absolute stupid questions, yet fail to answer sensible questions asked of you, like the TIN FUSELAGE.
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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How about YOU SHOW US your proof of the tin fuselage muppet brain?
You like to demand answers, but are not forthcoming with others that ask you questions.
You will soon be ignored by the logical people as you are one that demands answers to absolute stupid questions, yet fail to answer sensible questions asked of you, like the TIN FUSELAGE.
One has to wonder what it is among all the questions truthers/trools like srv63 relentlessly post that could possibly lead to proof of a conspiracy? As for srv63, until which time he or she learns to communicate clearly, I find it no longer necessary to entertain his questions because they are nothing but a waste of time.
Far as i'm concerned, there is no way the Bush administration could have pulled off such a huge false flag operation without at least screwing up something. SOLID PROOF on Youtube is undeniable!!! Linky...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UYQfzVOH9E
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srv63
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Yes, please do look at his statement below will you, please do try to read it: I have HIGHLIGHTED his comments where needed, just to help you!
Sometime before 2008, during an interview with Loose Change filmmakers Jason Bermas and Dylan Avery, Jennings elaborated on the explosions he heard and felt in Building 7, saying (at the 5:45 mark):
“All this time, I’m hearing all kinds of explosions. All this time I’m hearing explosions. And I’m thinking that maybe it’s the uh, buses around me that were on fire, the cars that were on fire, but, I don’t see no [gesturing] you know, but I'm still hearing these explosions. When they [the rescuers] finally got to us, and they took us down, to what, what they, they, uh, called the lobby, because I asked them when we got down there I said, ‘Where are we?’ He said ‘This was the lobby.’ And I said, ‘You gotta be kidding me.’ Total ruins. Total ruins. Now keep in mind when I came in there, the lobby had nice escalators, it was a huge lobby. And for me to see what I saw, was unbelievable.”
"When they got to the 6th floor an explosion below blew them off and the landing beneath them gave way. They had to retreat to the 8th floor. It is important to emphasize that in every interview that he gave Jennings insisted that it was an explosion and that the explosion took place below them. "
So you gooberment paid shills are not going to dispute Mr Barry Jennings testimony of explosions? THIS would be a first.
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srv63
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How about YOU SHOW US your proof of the tin fuselage muppet brain?
You like to demand answers, but are not forthcoming with others that ask you questions.
You will soon be ignored by the logical people as you are one that demands answers to absolute stupid questions, yet fail to answer sensible questions asked of you, like the TIN FUSELAGE.
I already answered your question numb nuts. Is there a reason why you have a problem with the dimensions of the main columns in each tower being revealed?
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srv63
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One has to wonder what it is among all the questions truthers/trools like srv63 relentlessly post that could possibly lead to proof of a conspiracy? As for srv63, until which time he or she learns to communicate clearly, I find it no longer necessary to entertain his questions because they are nothing but a waste of time.
Far as i'm concerned, there is no way the Bush administration could have pulled off such a huge false flag operation without at least screwing up something. SOLID PROOF on Youtube is undeniable!!! Linky...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UYQfzVOH9E
If your pea brain leaders in the gooberment pulled this big hoax off without screwing up then all of us would not be here disputing the facts from fiction, don't ya think? But since your shit for brains leaders got too greedy therefore being too careless, they got caught and that's why we are here today, us Truthers exposing the truth and you shills doing your best to hide the truth.
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57channels
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Stanley Hilton Lawsuit
Stanley G. Hilton has filed a class action lawsuit in Federal court in Northern California against against high officials in the current Bush administration (including the federal government, Bush, Cheney, Rice, Mueller, Tenet, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft), for complicity in aiding and abetting and facilitating the Sep. 11, 2001 attacks.
His suit contends, and we strongly concur, that the defendants did so in order to launch unconstitutional aggressive war against the sovereign states of Afghanistan and Iraq, declare political opponents "enemy combatants," suspend the Constitution indefinitely, etc., all for sordid political ends which subvert the very system of laws and Constitution the defendants have sworn to uphold in their offices.
http://www.911review.org/Wiki/StanleyHiltonLawsuit.shtml
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higgy51
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Stanley Hilton Lawsuit
Stanley G. Hilton has filed a class action lawsuit in Federal court in Northern California against against high officials in the current Bush administration (including the federal government, Bush, Cheney, Rice, Mueller, Tenet, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft), for complicity in aiding and abetting and facilitating the Sep. 11, 2001 attacks.
His suit contends, and we strongly concur, that the defendants did so in order to launch unconstitutional aggressive war against the sovereign states of Afghanistan and Iraq, declare political opponents "enemy combatants," suspend the Constitution indefinitely, etc., all for sordid political ends which subvert the very system of laws and Constitution the defendants have sworn to uphold in their offices.
http://www.911review.org/Wiki/StanleyHiltonLawsuit.shtml
Well done 57, that law suit goes back just a few years, 11 in total!
You do understand it was filed in 2004 don't you?
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57channels
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higgy
Well done 57, that law suit goes back just a few years, 11 in total!
You do understand it was filed in 2004 don't you?
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Yeah.....I know that. The point is : I listed this is because Mr. Hilton [ Bobe Doles former COS ] was representing 400 family members who lost loved ones on 9-11. Got it??? Now go ahead and rip or criticize these 400 family members like you kiddie fkn cats have done with Richard Gage, Jim Fetzer, Morgan Reynolds, John Lear, pilots, veterans, scholars, architects, engineers, veterans for TRUTH.
GO AHEAD AND CALL THE 400 FAMILY MEMBER : CONSPIRACY KOOKS " LIKE YOU HAVE EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS THE FKN TRUTH ABOUT 9-11
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juma2112
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higgy
Well done 57, that law suit goes back just a few years, 11 in total!
You do understand it was filed in 2004 don't you?
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Yeah.....I know that. The point is : I listed this is because Mr. Hilton [ Bobe Doles former COS ] was representing 400 family members who lost loved ones on 9-11. Got it??? Now go ahead and rip or criticize these 400 family members like you kiddie fkn cats have done with Richard Gage, Jim Fetzer, Morgan Reynolds, John Lear, pilots, veterans, scholars, architects, engineers, veterans for TRUTH.
GO AHEAD AND CALL THE 400 FAMILY MEMBER : CONSPIRACY KOOKS " LIKE YOU HAVE EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS THE FKN TRUTH ABOUT 9-11
Of the 400 plaintiffs named, only 14 were family members of 9/11 victims.
Furthermore, the accusation was that various gov. officials failed to act to prevent 9/11, not planned and executed the nefarious plot u imagine.
Mr. Hilton was dis-barred in California (2012 I believe) for multi misconduct reprimands.
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tragicparrot
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What a shame Stanley Hilton can only be added to 911Truths lawsuit debris pile.
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juma
Furthermore, the accusation was that various gov. officials failed to act to prevent 9/11, not planned and executed the nefarious plot u imagine.
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Im not gonna look it all up now. easy for the feds to cook the books or change alot of the data after 14 years. 400 family members or whatever. Im sure its alot more than 14 family members.
Failed to act to prevent??? That's treason and mass murder anyway. The truther's know the feds planned it, did it, and covered it up [ with the Mossads help ] So..... your little excuse means jack diddly squat.
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I am bored, and here to help wake up any fence sitters who cant grasp the fact the US Govt. hates their fkn guts.
The govt. stoolies, or shills or paid stooges.....along with the braindead proud to be an American sheeple...........have one phony excuse after another. The never ending war on terror.......just like the never ending phony hollow excuses from the losers---- whether they are paid or not.
Hey juma.....rip or cut down all the engineers, architects, scholars, pilots, and veterans for truth okay?? Your a vet, arn't ya....go ahead and rip those vets that want a real investigation into 9-11. Lets hear it...I'm waiting????
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juma2112
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juma
Furthermore, the accusation was that various gov. officials failed to act to prevent 9/11, not planned and executed the nefarious plot u imagine.
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Im not gonna look it all up now. easy for the feds to cook the books or change alot of the data after 14 years. 400 family members or whatever. Im sure its alot more than 14 family members.
Failed to act to prevent??? That's treason and mass murder anyway. The truther's know the feds planned it, did it, and covered it up [ with the Mossads help ] So..... your little excuse means jack diddly squat.
No, ur claim is a GLARING example of how ur movement uses distorted (or fabricated) facts/evidence to further their agenda.
And u are a prime example ("I'm not gonna look it all up now") of the type people who read these, deliberate, distortions, and take them as fact without doing ANY research.
The gov. "Cooked the books" is truther for .
To be clear, 14 9/11 families are listed as individual plaintiffs (not each family member)
As to failing to prevent 9/11.
Taking ineffective action, mis-interpreting intel, failed policies, etc. are NOT treasonous activities.
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class5
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No, ur claim is a GLARING example of how ur movement uses distorted (or fabricated) facts/evidence to further their agenda.
And u are a prime example ("I'm not gonna look it all up now") of the type people who read these, deliberate, distortions, and take them as fact without doing ANY research.
The gov. "Cooked the books" is truther for .
To be clear, 14 9/11 families are listed as individual plaintiffs (not each family member)
As to failing to prevent 9/11.
Taking ineffective action, mis-interpreting intel, failed policies, etc. are NOT treasonous activities.
9/11 truth have a problem interpreting causation. We see incompetence and ass-covering, they turn it into some nefarious NWO plot without a shred of evidence toward that conclusion.
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class5
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One has to wonder what it is among all the questions truthers/trools like srv63 relentlessly post that could possibly lead to proof of a conspiracy? As for srv63, until which time he or she learns to communicate clearly, I find it no longer necessary to entertain his questions because they are nothing but a waste of time.
I blocked the idiot because I am sick of his drivel and stupidity. It's quite pleasant without that troll.
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class5
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I am bored, and here to help wake up any fence sitters who cant grasp the fact the US Govt. hates their fkn guts.
The govt. stoolies, or shills or paid stooges.....along with the braindead proud to be an American sheeple...........have one phony excuse after another. The never ending war on terror.......just like the never ending phony hollow excuses from the losers---- whether they are paid or not.
What a stupid rant. How old are you?
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57channels
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juma
Taking ineffective action, mis-interpreting intel, failed policies, etc. are NOT treasonous activities.
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What your saying here is " Letting it happen on purpose is not treason and mass murder, then?? Anyone with an open mind knows it was MADE to happen on purpose. Now about those vets........lets hear you criticize them?? You know.......conspiracy kooks who served in the armed forces.....there are some ya know. Some veterans who did NOT get brainwashed by the military and can think for themselves. So...what do you think of those vets?? Pray tell....I'm waiting for an answer.
What is your opinion of the vets that want a new or real investigation into 9-11??
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cl-ASS
I blocked the idiot because I am sick of his drivel and stupidity. It's quite pleasant without that troll.
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[Evil & lies blocks Good & truth]. Very good comparison would be Jim Miegs blocking Kevin Barrett or Morgan Reynolds.
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class5
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cl-ASS
I blocked the idiot because I am sick of his drivel and stupidity. It's quite pleasant without that troll.
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[Evil & lies blocks Good & truth]. Very good comparison would be Jim Miegs blocking Kevin Barrett or Morgan Reynolds.
Whatever, Idiot. You'll believe what you want and the truth doesn't enter into it.
God truthers are childish.
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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juma
Taking ineffective action, mis-interpreting intel, failed policies, etc. are NOT treasonous activities.
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What your saying here is " Letting it happen on purpose is not treason and mass murder, then?? Anyone with an open mind knows it was MADE to happen on purpose. Now about those vets........lets hear you criticize them?? You know.......conspiracy kooks who served in the armed forces.....there are some ya know. Some veterans who did NOT get brainwashed by the military and can think for themselves. So...what do you think of those vets?? Pray tell....I'm waiting for an answer.
What is your opinion of the vets that want a new or real investigation into 9-11??
Please provide a reference to which veterans your referring to. And their opinions or at least an interview regarding 911. Simply stating that "some veterans" did not get brainwashed leaves nothing for anyone to leave an opinion on.
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class5
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Please provide a reference to which veterans your referring to. And their opinions or at least an interview regarding 911. Simply stating that "some veterans" did not get brainwashed leaves nothing for anyone to leave an opinion on.
I think he just raves on to see if anyone responds to it. He can't take half his shit seriously, surely?
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tragicparrot
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I think he just raves on to see if anyone responds to it. He can't take half his shit seriously, surely?
Well, not yet anyways. I do suspect though, that this could take awhile.
Another 14 years maybe?
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tragicparrot
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[snip]......What is your opinion of the vets that want a new or real investigation into 9-11??
Who are these veterans 57channels?
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srv63
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cl-ASS
I blocked the idiot because I am sick of his drivel and stupidity. It's quite pleasant without that troll.
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[Evil & lies blocks Good & truth]. Very good comparison would be Jim Miegs blocking Kevin Barrett or Morgan Reynolds.
Who did that fancy pants, snobby education with no common sense panty waste noclass block 57channels? Wittle ole me?
Some b*tches can't take the truth, especially when the truth destroys their narrative. That's one dumb shill down and 2 1/2 to go
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tragicparrot
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Perhaps you can help resolve who the veterans are 57channels is referring to?
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class5
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Quote from srv63:
Who did that fancy pants, snobby education with no common sense panty waste noclass block 57channels? Wittle ole me?
You were blocked for playing childish games as evidenced by the above. You're unable to debate the subject in an adult fashion, therefore I can't be bothered with you. Inbred idiots like you are a dime a dozen.
Some b*tches can't take the truth
You haven't done anything other than troll. You have no truth, you have brain dead stories-there's a massive difference. You're unable to tell the truth. You lie, twist, distort, misrepresent, obfuscate, delay, evade & avoid your responsibilities, but you haven't told the truth yet.
especially when the truth destroys their narrative.
Oh, and where exactly have you done that? Nowhere. You have no evidence, no sense, no logic, no brains, no learning, no idea.
That's one dumb shill down and 2 1/2 to go
That's one dumb comment from a d*ckhead. Many more to follow.
Now, Shitlips, I will unblock you so you can see this, then you go on block again because you are a time wasting POS.
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srv63
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Perhaps you can help resolve who the veterans are 57channels is referring to?
Perhaps you can explain why the stairwell exploded out from Barry Jennings feet in WTC building 7 when supposedly there were NO EXPLOSIONS in building 7
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progrocknic
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Perhaps you can explain why the stairwell exploded out from Barry Jennings feet in WTC building 7 when supposedly there were NO EXPLOSIONS in building 7
Did someone say there were no explosions or that there was no controlled demolition? There's a pretty big difference between those things. But of course if you think we invaded Iraq first after 9/11 and not Afghanistan..... Well..... This concept might be difficult to grasp.
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class5
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Did someone say there were no explosions or that there was no controlled demolition? There's a pretty big difference between those things. But of course if you think we invaded Iraq first after 9/11 and not Afghanistan..... Well..... This concept might be difficult to grasp.
Yeah, how dumb was that? These clowns have no freaking idea of what they're on about.
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tragicparrot
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Perhaps you can explain why the stairwell exploded out from Barry Jennings feet in WTC building 7 when supposedly there were NO EXPLOSIONS in building 7
Who said there were never any explosions being heard by Mr Jennings? And how is this evidence of explosives having been used to bring down WTC7? Please provide facts srv63, otherwise your question will, for reasons I stated earlier, be totally ignored.
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progrocknic
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I be seen a lot of 9/11 videos. I hear a lot of things crashing, and popping, and blowing up. I have yet to hear any evidence of a controlled demolition. I've been to a few of those. The sounds are pretty unmistakable. Not a single video capture anything like that.
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srv63
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Who said there were never any explosions being heard by Mr Jennings? And how is this evidence of explosives having been used to bring down WTC7? Please provide facts srv63, otherwise your question will, for reasons I stated earlier, be totally ignored.
I am simply asking a question. Did Mr Barry Jennings experience the stairwell beneath him in WTC7 explode from out beneath him? I think this is one really simple question
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srv63
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I be seen a lot of 9/11 videos. I hear a lot of things crashing, and popping, and blowing up. I have yet to hear any evidence of a controlled demolition. I've been to a few of those. The sounds are pretty unmistakable. Not a single video capture anything like that.
So your "professional opinion" outweighs that of a demolition experts who demolishes buildings for a living? An expert that says without a doubt ALL THREE buildings (WTC1,WTC2 and WTC7) were imploded by PROFESSIONAL DEMOLITION EXPERTS
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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[snip]........What is your opinion of the vets that want a new or real investigation into 9-11??
So tell us more 57channels and srv63 about the veterans who are asking for a new or real investigation into 911? Who are they, and in what website or blog post have you found their inquiries? And about this demolition expert srv63 your referring to, who is he?
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7/27/2015 9:02:31 PM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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So tell us more 57channels and srv63 about the veterans who are asking for a new or real investigation into 911? Who are they, and in what website or blog post have you found their inquiries? And about this demolition expert srv63 your referring to, who is he?
You know exactly who i'm referring to parrot. Remember the DEMOLITIONS EXPERT that was MURDERED in a so called "vehicle accident" by your puppet masters
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7/27/2015 9:02:35 PM |
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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Your demolition expert srv63?
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7/27/2015 9:03:45 PM |
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class5
Queensland
Australia
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I be seen a lot of 9/11 videos. I hear a lot of things crashing, and popping, and blowing up. I have yet to hear any evidence of a controlled demolition. I've been to a few of those. The sounds are pretty unmistakable. Not a single video capture anything like that.
9/11 truth often states that the collapse of the WTC resembles a controlled demolition. Apart from the fact that the buildings fell downward, there is no similarity to any method of controlled demolition in use.
It doesn't look like verinage (hydraulics), nor explosive demolition.
So, THEY™ used noiseless, fireproof explosives that produce no shock wave. Do you notice that whenever I raise this point, no-one responds?
Thermite was ridiculous and has been proven wrong, so explosives are the only option for 9/11 truth, and that hypothesis fails immediately.
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7/27/2015 9:21:30 PM |
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louie6332
Falkville, AL
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Excellent point Sn63. And the four higgs, or at least some of them, did say there were no explosions. But I do not have the time to wade back through 200 pages to find the quotes. First they denied there were no explosions, and then, when it was shown to them that there were numerous successive explosions, they denied that the explosions were unrelated to controlled demolition. And yet they never admitted that they were wrong about these being no explosions.
They went through this same song and dance about there being no molten metal. When it was shown that there was molten metal, and that is was seen pouring down from the outside (which they first denied), they insisted it was not molten steel.
And when it was shown to them that some of the steel beams were cut diagonally, which had to have been a deliberate cut, they insisted that it was the cleanup crew that cut the beams.
And when it was pointed out to them that the order to "pull it" was given and recorded on the third tower, which they had denied, they then redefined the term. And so it goes. Do you see a pattern here?
They will have to be dragged kicking and screaming to the truth. But as long as they have a vested interest in the government story, they will not cry uncle. They do not understand that when they defend government lies, they make themselves a party to those Government lies, and when they defend the Government brutally murdering all those people, they make themselves a party to their murders.
None of the four higges would ever be able to work in a field that required careful thought and careful research, be it a police detective trying to solve a murder, or a doctor trying to diagnose a disease, or an electronic technician trying to trouble shoot a problem, or a physicist trying to explain an unexplained anomaly, or whatever. They would fail at all these occupations if they treated them in the same way they are treating this. And if Class5's posts here were ever shown to his customers, he would lose all his customers. Customers do not like dishonest and incompetent business men.
Louie
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7/27/2015 9:28:31 PM |
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class5
Queensland
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Excellent point Sn63. And the four higgs, or at least some of them, did say there were no explosions. But I do not have the time to wade back through 200 pages to find the quotes. First they denied there were no explosions, and then, when it was shown to them that there were numerous successive explosions, they denied that the explosions were unrelated to controlled demolition. And yet they never admitted that they were wrong about these being no explosions.
They went through this same song and dance about there being no molten metal. When it was shown that there was molten metal, and that is was seen pouring down from the outside (which they first denied), they insisted it was not molten steel.
And when it was shown to them that some of the steel beams were cut diagonally, which had to have been a deliberate cut, they insisted that it was the cleanup crew that cut the beams.
And when it was pointed out to them that the order to "pull it" was given and recorded on the third tower, which they had denied, they then redefined the term. And so it goes. Do you see a pattern here?
They will have to be dragged kicking and screaming to the truth. But as long as they have a vested interest in the government story, they will not cry uncle. They do not understand that when they defend government lies, they make themselves a party to those Government lies, and when they defend the Government brutally murdering all those people, they make themselves a party to their murders.
None of the four higges would ever be able to work in a field that required careful thought and careful research, be it a police detective trying to solve a murder, or a doctor trying to diagnose a disease, or an electronic technician trying to trouble shoot a problem, or a physicist trying to explain an unexplained anomaly, or whatever. They would fail at all these occupations if they treated them in the same way they are treating this. Louie
Well that was a load of opinionated and unsupported lies from a lunatic.
And if Class5's posts here were ever shown to his customers, he would lose all his customers. Customers do not like dishonest and incompetent business men.
I do very well owing to my skills in logic. Something alien to you and your ilk. Is your argument so weak you need to resort to such fatuous speculation?
You cannot prove any dishonesty on my part, Fool, and my competence is highly respected, while you on the other hand are an idiot that should never have been put in front of children as an educator.
It is clear that you just have the shits because I've disproved so many of your ignorant claims. I get that.
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7/27/2015 9:30:03 PM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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@ Louie6332,
noclass is a businessman?
More like an idiot educated from a dictionary in his mommys basement with NO COMMON SENSE
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7/27/2015 9:34:47 PM |
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class5
Queensland
Australia
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So Louie, do you have anything to support the notion of Controlled Demolition? Or is it easier to attack your opponent than it is to support your ridiculous claims? I bet the latter is the case.
9/11 truth: mendaciously avoiding honest debate for fourteen years.
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7/27/2015 9:37:48 PM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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Your demolition expert srv63?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiA5OYdHneA
Enjoy
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7/27/2015 9:38:10 PM |
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class5
Queensland
Australia
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Excellent point Sn63. And the four higgs, or at least some of them, did say there were no explosions. But I do not have the time to wade back through 200 pages to find the quotes.
You obviously misinterpreted the post. No-one said there were no explosions. There are explosions in fires, so that statement is ridiculous. The point you are deliberately missing is the fact that explosions do not necessarily equal explosives.
I hope that finally sinks in this time.
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7/27/2015 9:40:46 PM |
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class5
Queensland
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They went through this same song and dance about there being no molten metal. When it was shown that there was molten metal, and that is was seen pouring down from the outside (which they first denied), they insisted it was not molten steel.
You're a liar. Do you have any comment on the molten copper I produced for you earlier, or would you just rather rant and lie?
Come on, man up, Liar.
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7/27/2015 10:02:15 PM |
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class5
Queensland
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Nothing Louie? I thought not.
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7/27/2015 10:22:01 PM |
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiA5OYdHneA
Enjoy
Jowenko never had any experience with demolishing skyscrapers. His entire opinion was based upon what WTC7 looked like when it collapsed. Furthermore, he had never offered up any evidence or written analysis that lent support to a controlled demolition. Unless you can prove otherwise, your Youtube video has consequently been ignored.
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7/27/2015 10:26:14 PM |
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class5
Queensland
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Jowenko never had any experience with demolishing skyscrapers. His entire opinion was based upon what WTC7 looked like when it collapsed. Furthermore, he had never offered up any evidence or written analysis that lent support to a controlled demolition. Unless you can prove otherwise, your Youtube video has consequently been ignored.
Jowenko initially was asked leading questions, and his original interview was edited by 9/11 truth to paint him as a supporter. He has since published a statement disassociating himself from 9/11 truth. I'll try to find it and post it for you, as it's on ISF somewhere and you know that might take a while to find.
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7/27/2015 10:27:59 PM |
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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7/27/2015 10:33:41 PM |
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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Jowenko initially was asked leading questions, and his original interview was edited by 9/11 truth to paint him as a supporter. He has since published a statement disassociating himself from 9/11 truth. I'll try to find it and post it for you, as it's on ISF somewhere and you know that might take a while to find.
You are correct class5.
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7/27/2015 10:49:02 PM |
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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Found one thread here...
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64261&highlight=Danny+Jowenko
Unfortunately, many of the associated links to Danny Jowenko's original interview have long since been expired. Not surprizing, since AE911Truth's only hope is to capitalize on anything but his original interview.
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7/27/2015 10:52:16 PM |
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class5
Queensland
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Found one thread here...
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64261&highlight=Danny+Jowenko
Unfortunately, many of the associated links to Danny Jowenko's original interview have long since been expired. Not surprizing, since AE911Truth's only hope is to capitalize on anything but his original interview.
Indeed. Thanks for chasing that down. I thought it was in that thread, but I'll keep looking. These guys wouldn't believe it if I posted it anyway, so what's the point I suppose?
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7/27/2015 10:54:27 PM |
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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Oh look. Its right here on Youtube...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3wwdI0XawI
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7/27/2015 10:54:47 PM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
52, joined Jul. 2012
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To the Truthers as well as the shills,
Since i never could get any of these spineless, deceptive shills to answer one of my questions about the WIDTH, DEPTH and THICKNESS of the FORTY SEVEN (47) MAIN COLUMNS that are the MAIN SUPPORTS in the center of EACH twin tower, i took the liberty of posting a clear view of one (url is posted below) being cut at ground zero. Compare the size of one of these columns compared to one of the guys cutting it and ask yourselves, would it be possible for jet fuel which is not a damn bit hotter burning than kerosene or diesel fuel, be able to get hot enough to weaken one of these beams, much less most of them? As you can clearly see, EACH COLUMNS metal thickness is a minimum OF 4 INCHES THICK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGddnJlJpJQ start video at 2:42
Only in a fairy tale could diesel fuel get that hot
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7/27/2015 11:01:49 PM |
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class5
Queensland
Australia
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Oh look. Its right here on Youtube...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3wwdI0XawI
Great! I'm still going through the search results @ ISF!
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7/27/2015 11:29:49 PM |
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
57, joined Mar. 2014
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To the Truthers as well as the shills,
Since i never could get any of these spineless, deceptive shills to answer one of my questions about the WIDTH, DEPTH and THICKNESS of the FORTY SEVEN ( 47) MAIN COLUMNS that are the MAIN SUPPORTS in the center of EACH twin tower, i took the liberty of posting a clear view of one (url is posted below) being cut at ground zero. Compare the size of one of these columns compared to one of the guys cutting it and ask yourselves, would it be possible for jet fuel which is not a damn bit hotter burning than kerosene or diesel fuel, be able to get hot enough to weaken one of these beams, much less most of them? As you can clearly see, EACH COLUMNS metal thickness is a minimum OF 4 INCHES THICK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGddnJlJpJQ start video at 2:42
Only in a fairy tale could diesel fuel get that hot
Thanks for the wonderful link showing the efforts made by crews in cleaning up the area's in and around ground zero. Your proof of an incendiary utilized in bringing down the WTC's other than jet fuel and office supplies?
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7/27/2015 11:41:26 PM |
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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Thanks for the wonderful link showing the efforts made by crews in cleaning up the area's in and around ground zero. Your proof of an incendiary utilized in bringing down the WTC's other than jet fuel and office supplies?
So no comment on your diesel fuel being able to heat HUGE 4 INCHES THICK steel columns to the required temperature to cause them to buckle? I didn't think so
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