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7/28/2015 6:04:43 PM  

progrocknic
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Quote from srv63:
Well shill, i want performance out of your lazy a** since my tax dollars are supporting you


I think it's more likely that my tax dollars are supporting you. Mental health facilities are mostly tax payer funded....... So.....

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7/28/2015 6:07:48 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

progrocknic
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Quote from class5:
Shut up Fool. Have you not read the reports? Where do you think I obtained the information? Why do you have to act like this? What do you get out of being an a**hole?

AE911T cannot produce the evidence for a new investigation because they lack the evidence, as you've been told repeatedly.

Grow up 57, and lift your game to an adult level and stop acting the fool.







Back when I was a truther, I signed up to AE911's petition. I qualify as an expert in their eyes. Oddly enough, they didn't consider me an expert when I started to question them. Oh well.

It's not a site for experts to get together to question things, it's a site of people who don't trust the government who want to consider themselves experts. You can be an expert to, so long as you agree with them.

7/28/2015 6:16:09 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  
juma2112
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Quote from srv63:
Says the so called vietnam vet


Show me where I ever claimed to be a Viet Nam vet u douche.

Nam was my dads war, I was 9ish when it ended.

Please seek help. Ur hallucinations are getting worse.


7/28/2015 6:16:39 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

class5
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Quote from progrocknic:
Back when I was a truther, I signed up to AE911's petition. I qualify as an expert in their eyes. Oddly enough, they didn't consider me an expert when I started to question them. Oh well.

It's not a site for experts to get together to question things, it's a site of people who don't trust the government who want to consider themselves experts. You can be an expert to, so long as you agree with them.


The International Skeptics Foundation have investigated the membership of AE911T and have found there are very few members who are actually in the industry. Some signees have forgotten they ever signed up, while others, like you, have long since left. Gage has been caught 'buying' likes on Facebook, and the likes have been reduced by over 10,000 recently.

It is estimated that Gage pockets about $500,000 per annum from truther donations. I find it funny that he claims to never have enough money to fund a new investigation. No, D*cky, you don't have the evidence and you do have the money.

7/28/2015 6:25:24 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  
juma2112
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Quote from 57channels:
juma

Taking ineffective action, mis-interpreting intel, failed policies, etc. are NOT treasonous activities.
====================================================
What your saying here is " Letting it happen on purpose is not treason and mass murder, then?? Anyone with an open mind knows it was MADE to happen on purpose. Now about those vets........lets hear you criticize them?? You know.......conspiracy kooks who served in the armed forces.....there are some ya know. Some veterans who did NOT get brainwashed by the military and can think for themselves. So...what do you think of those vets?? Pray tell....I'm waiting for an answer.

What is your opinion of the vets that want a new or real investigation into 9-11??



So a handful of vets share ur insanity, so what?
U can find a few conspiracy nuts from every walk of life.
Evidence is what separates fact from fiction, and since u and ur bros. have no evidence (if u did, I assume u would post it) ur theory is no more than that, a THEORY. (not even a plausible one)


7/28/2015 6:36:34 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

tragicparrot
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Quote from 57channels:
juma

I only look in on this thread occasionally.
It does seem that the general theme is 57, sv, etc. claim outrageous theories as fact, class, higgy, etc. ask for proof, and none is EVER provided (a youtube video of someone voicing an opinion is NOT evidence)
=====================================================
Here I thought you came back to answer my question about the veterans for truth that want a REAl investigation into 9-11. I guess your just not gonna answer it huh?? The 3 kiddies claim only 14 lost family members..or one of them. I get them all mixed up. Moe, Larry and Curly = combined iltelligence=0 but they are paid shills so might be a little higher


"Pilots for 9/11 Truth is a 9/11 truther organization made up of "aviation professionals (not experts) and pilots throughout the globe who have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September 2001. Oddly, and unlike most conspiracy groups, they claim not to "offer theory or point blame" in their pursuit of the truth, and as a result leave a void that is filled with every wacky 9/11 "theory" out there, including the contradictory ones, and those that are easy to prove wrong."

"The organization seems utterly convinced that United Flight 93 did not crash when or where the official report says it does and thus, this is somehow a sign of conspiracy, even though there is ample evidence to contradict their claims. They also seem to think that no true airline pilot would let themselves be stabbed to death in a hijacking." Linky...

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pilots_for_9/11_Truth

And don't forget 57channels, if the price is right, they'll provide all the evidence you need (instead of offering it to the justice dept). Go figure.

7/28/2015 9:02:01 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

srv63
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Quote from tragicparrot:
This had already been addressed several pages ago. Linky's below...

http://11-settembre.blogspot.com/2009/04/active-thermitic-material-claimed-in.html

http://11-settembre.blogspot.com/2007/12/molten-metal-pools-may-have-simple.html

Rehashing claims thermite was used to bring down the WTC's cannot ignore the evidence presented by 11-settemre.

Also, the NIST reports represent the most serious attempt to answer these questions. Simply claiming the above in a vacuum without referencing to it is ludicrous and a waste of time.

Linky to the NIST report...

http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/

Please read, then offer your rebuttal. Any reasonable one will do.


The nist report? Personally i have never read that report and never will because it could only be made up by degenerates for degenerates.

As far as any sites that you post that seem like you religiously frequent, i'm not wasting my time going by there either because they are all the same, wanting to brainwash us into believing the official bullshit story that makes not a damn bit of sense. I shill , am still open minded enough to weigh the evidence and will believe ONLY the truth and what makes sense and so far, the official gooberment account of 9/11 has more holes in it that swiss cheese

7/28/2015 9:07:24 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  
juma2112
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Soooo...what ur saying is, u refuse to read anything that disputes ur theory?

Way to search for truth.
I refuse to read all that "round earth" propaganda myself.
I i look out myfront door and see, the earth is clearly flat (exceptfor the hills) and I refuse to be brainwashed.



7/28/2015 9:08:28 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

progrocknic
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Quote from juma2112:
Soooo...what ur saying is, u refuse to read anything that disputes ur theory?

Way to search for truth.
I refuse to read all that "round earth" propaganda myself.
I i look out myfront door and see, the earth is clearly flat (exceptfor the hills) and I refuse to be brainwashed.



All while calling everyone else a brainwashed shill. Real bright group here.

7/28/2015 9:18:46 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

srv63
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Quote from juma2112:
So a handful of vets share ur insanity, so what?
U can find a few conspiracy nuts from every walk of life.
Evidence is what separates fact from fiction, and since u and ur bros. have no evidence (if u did, I assume u would post it) ur theory is no more than that, a THEORY. (not even a plausible one)


First off, let me point something out here. Vietnam was EVERYONES war because we all were effected in one way or the other because of it . If you knew anything about that war, you would know damn well that your greedy f**kin government had no business messing around over there, the same exact shit with this 9/11 bullshit. You keep on thinking vietnam was your dads war and every other war we face is someone elses war. That's denial and spineless and god help you if you ever had kids

7/28/2015 9:21:48 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  
juma2112
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Dont bother with ur usual smokescreen of paranoia.

U accused me of claiming to be a Viet Nam vet.

Show me where I said this.

Or was it just another baseless claim, like ur ridiculous 9/11 claims.




[Edited 7/28/2015 9:22:03 PM ]

7/28/2015 9:33:30 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

srv63
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Quote from progrocknic:
All while calling everyone else a brainwashed shill. Real bright group here.


Show me just ONE occasion where i ever stated that you idiot shills were brainwashed. Brainwashed means that you believe the bullshit that your preaching. The only one i see that might be brainwashed is you, 1/2 shill because you seem simple minded enough to be influenced in such a way. The other shills, i can see that they have seen allot of different research and facts therefore they are not dumb enough to believe the crock of shit official gooberment story that they are paid to preach. They are simple paid shills and you are an idiot shill wannabe

7/28/2015 9:36:33 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  
juma2112
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Yet u freely admit that u refuse to read anything that challenges ur ridiculous narrative.

Still waiting for an explanation of ur Viet Nam accusation against me.


7/28/2015 9:37:20 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

progrocknic
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Quote from srv63:
Show me just ONE occasion where i ever stated that you idiot shills were brainwashed. Brainwashed means that you believe the bullshit that your preaching. The only one i see that might be brainwashed is you, 1/2 shill because you seem simple minded enough to be influenced in such a way. The other shills, i can see that they have seen allot of different research and facts therefore they are not dumb enough to believe the crock of shit official gooberment story that they are paid to preach. They are simple paid shills and you are an idiot shill wannabe


You realize this means absolutely nothing to anyone when you confidently admit to only looking for evidence that supports your opinions. Right?

7/28/2015 9:43:37 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

srv63
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Quote from progrocknic:
You realize this means absolutely nothing to anyone when you confidently admit to only looking for evidence that supports your opinions. Right?


Show me evidence that MAKES SENSE you brainless twit, then i will read and consider it. NONE, NOT A DAMN BIT of 9/11 makes sense except to an idiot or the gullible and i am neither.

7/28/2015 9:46:51 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

progrocknic
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Quote from srv63:
NONE, NOT A DAMN BIT of 9/11 makes sense except to an idiot or the gullible and i am neither.


Hey, whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night. You're a genius and your parents love you. Sleep well.

7/28/2015 9:47:29 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

tragicparrot
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Quote from srv63:
The nist report? Personally i have never read that report and never will because it could only be made up by degenerates for degenerates.

As far as any sites that you post that seem like you religiously frequent, i'm not wasting my time going by there either because they are all the same, wanting to brainwash us into believing the official bullshit story that makes not a damn bit of sense. I shill , am still open minded enough to weigh the evidence and will believe ONLY the truth and what makes sense and so far, the official gooberment account of 9/11 has more holes in it that swiss cheese


Because its quite obvious none can be found throughout any of your posts, precisely what evidence or truth are you referring to srv? Is it where you accuse me or others of being a shill? And how can you claim the official report is BS when you just stated you never read it?

7/28/2015 9:52:50 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  
juma2112
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Srv,
wheres ur proof of my Viet Nam claim?

As usual, u make unsubstantiated claims then run, hide, throw up smoke screens of mis-direction.

I just described ur 9/11 M.O.

Ur almost as big a clown as 57.



7/28/2015 9:57:03 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

progrocknic
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Quote from juma2112:
Srv,
wheres ur proof of my Viet Nam claim?

As usual, u make unsubstantiated claims then run, hide, throw up smoke screens of mis-direction.

I just described ur 9/11 M.O.

Ur almost as big a clown as 57.



I too would like to see evidence of such a claim.

7/28/2015 9:59:22 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

srv63
Over 1,000 Posts (1,564)
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Quote from juma2112:
Dont bother with ur usual smokescreen of paranoia.

U accused me of claiming to be a Viet Nam vet.

Show me where I said this.

Or was it just another baseless claim, like ur ridiculous 9/11 claims.


Smokescreen of paranoia? Where the hell do you dig this bullshit up dude?

If i misread somewhere about you wishing to have been from vietnam, then so be it. Not important.

What's ridiculous are not my claims of 9/11. What is ridiculous is the crock of shit official story that you idiots are trying to spoon feed us. If it made just a little bit of sense then your bullshit story might be plausible but your puppet master is expecting miracles expecting you paid shills to sell the official gooberment story which in one word is, STUPID

7/28/2015 10:02:44 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

progrocknic
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Yes, everyone here who has a different opinion than you is getting paid to have a different opinion than you.... On a date site forum..... Named datehookup. Yup.



7/28/2015 10:08:23 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

srv63
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Quote from progrocknic:
Yes, everyone here who has a different opinion than you is getting paid to have a different opinion than you.... On a date site forum..... Named datehookup. Yup.



As i stated before, idiot shill wannabe in training, you have nothing to bring to the table yet therefore your not worth paying yet therefore you are a unpaid 1/2 shill still with training wheels.

7/28/2015 10:12:21 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

progrocknic
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Quote from srv63:
As i stated before, idiot shill wannabe in training, you have nothing to bring to the table yet therefore your not worth paying yet therefore you are a unpaid 1/2 shill still with training wheels.


I'm just curious.... Does the government pay me to be an anti corporation, pro legalizing drugs, pro second amendment, anti war, pot smoking hippie too? Because if so, someone appears to be late on their payments.

7/28/2015 10:15:50 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

srv63
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Quote from progrocknic:
I'm just curious.... Does the government pay me to be an anti corporation, pro legalizing drugs, pro second amendment, anti war, pot smoking hippie too? Because if so, someone appears to be late on their payments.


Like i said before, training wheels, your not being payed yet. Also, you have no idea about hippies

7/28/2015 10:24:24 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  
juma2112
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Quote from srv
"Says the so called vietnam vet"

This is not mis-reading that I wished I was from Viet Nam. This is a vile accusation that I lied about my military service.

I've never come close to claiming VN service (as I said I was 9ish when it ended)

This feels more like a baseless attempt to slander me (typical of u) because I called bullshit on ur fantasy, and or ur complete lack of actual research.
57's crazy,
Ur just a douche.


7/28/2015 10:41:24 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

srv63
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Quote from juma2112:
Quote from srv
"Says the so called vietnam vet"

This is not mis-reading that I wished I was from Viet Nam. This is a vile accusation that I lied about my military service.

I've never come close to claiming VN service (as I said I was 9ish when it ended)

This feels more like a baseless attempt to slander me (typical of u) because I called bullshit on ur fantasy, and or ur complete lack of actual research.
57's crazy,
Ur just a douche.


I have no reason to slander you dude, i don't even know you. If it in any way hurt feelings then put your big girl panties on because if your gonna attack others in this forum then you yourself be prepared to be attacked.

And don't be telling me on what i have researched because you have no clue. If i did no research as you claim, then i would still be clueless and ignorant as you shills are trying to act. Researching is what really makes the picture clearer and shows us how gullible and ignorant we once were for believing the scumbag governments official story. Btw, if this makes me a douche then them colors i wear proudly



[Edited 7/28/2015 10:44:21 PM ]

7/28/2015 11:15:34 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  
juma2112
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Quote from srv,

"The nist report? Personally i have never read that report and never will because it could only be made up by degenerates for degenerates. 

As far as any sites that you post that seem like you religiously frequent, i'm not wasting my time going by there either because they are all the same, wanting to brainwash us into believing the official bullshit story that makes not a damn bit of sense. I shill , am still open minded enough to weigh the evidence and will believe ONLY the truth and what makes sense and so far, the official gooberment account of 9/11 has more holes in it that swiss cheese"

This is what gave me the impression that u had no interest in reading ANYTHING that contradicts ur preconceived narrative.

way to seek out truth, where ever she hides.



"I only look in on this thread occasionally. 
It does seem that the general theme is 57, sv, etc. claim outrageous theories as fact, class, higgy, etc. ask for proof, and none is EVER provided (a youtube video of someone voicing an opinion is NOT evidence) 

Unsubstantiated claims/accusations seem to be more distraction than debate."

This is my post that led to ur unsubstantiated accusation of my claiming Viet Nam service.

A simple observation that u, 57, and others are loooong on theories, claims, and accusations, but short on actual evidence (as evidenced by page after page of ur posts)

Uncomplimentary? Ok, but not an attack.

As to my hurt feelings,
I dont see a punk like u hurting me in any way.


7/28/2015 11:47:04 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

class5
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I see SRV is 'outdouching' 57 and Dementia Louie by a mile!

He's a real winner!



7/29/2015 12:06:02 AM Mount Arlington, NJ  

class5
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For those truly interested in an examination of the canards as presented by 9/11 truth in this thread (basically, all parroted from the film, Loose Change'), this video is well worth watching. Independent foreign researchers examine the claims made by Dylan Avery, and find that his claims are false.

Colour me surprised.



https://youtu.be/jZbUCoVEVsU

7/29/2015 12:17:59 AM Mount Arlington, NJ  

class5
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This shit is priceless. Nothing screams 'Idiot' like the following:

"The nist report? .

As far as any sites that you post that seem like you religiously frequent, and will believe ONLY the truth and what makes sense and so far, the official gooberment account of 9/11 has more holes in it that swiss cheese"


Only a truther would denounce a document he never read.

How many logic fails can we find in one rant?


"Personally i have never read that report and never will because it could only be made up by degenerates for degenerates"

How can you competently comment on a document you never read? That is ridiculous and just goes to show how easy it was for 9/11 truth to dupe you. Well, there's one born every minute.

"... i'm not wasting my time going by there either because they are all the same, wanting to brainwash us into believing the official bullshit story that makes not a damn bit of sense."

How can Science and Physics brainwash an individual? Perhaps if you read the documents the 'story' might make more sense to you, and your statement evinces why you're such a moron, as you have slavishly adopted one side of the story without examining the other.

True Genius.

"I shill , am still open minded enough to weigh the evidence..."

Did you type that with a straight face? Who do you think you're kidding? You just stated that you haven't read it. Did a telepath communicate it to you?


...the official gooberment account of 9/11 has more holes in it that swiss cheese"

How would you know? You just stated that you haven't read it.

There but for the Grace of God go I...it's so sad to see an individual so lost in bucolic ignorance.






[Edited 7/29/2015 12:20:54 AM ]

7/29/2015 12:26:19 AM Mount Arlington, NJ  

class5
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Quote from progrocknic:
Yes, everyone here who has a different opinion than you is getting paid to have a different opinion than you.... On a date site forum..... Named datehookup. Yup.



Oh, that was brilliant, Prog!



7/29/2015 2:15:11 AM Mount Arlington, NJ  
higgy51
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Quote from srv63:
So what your saying is oil canisters on the sixth floor of building 7 is what exploded and collapsed the stairwell out from underneath Mr Barry Jennings? What would be the purpose of "oil canisters" on the sixth floor?



Quote from srv63:
Well "moron", i'm simply asking what exactly ignited to have enough blast force to wipe out a whole stairwell? You mention oil containers. What exactly were these oil containers used for and why the hell were they not inside the basement instead of being around the sixth floor? After you answer them legitimate questions then tell me was it imposible for explosives to have been planted in building 7?



If you even bothered to do ANY research instead of just running off at the mouth and concentrating on one point that has already been answered 3 or 4 times, you might have come up with this information below.

Notice the transformer information? Now, if you can TRY to think logically, fire meets electrical transformers and guess what happens? THEY F**KING EXPLODE! Please take your time to read the parts in BOLD won't you? It is imperative that you do read and fully understand!!

I guess that answers your incessant stupid questions and maybe debunks you once again.

NOW YOU HAVE BEEN DEBUNKED, YOU WILL NO DOUBT, MOVE ONTO ANOTHER EASILY DEBUNKABLE SUBJECT.

Mechanical equipment was installed on floors four through seven, including 12 transformers on the 5th floor. Several emergency generators installed in the building were used by the Office of Emergency Management, Salomon Smith Barney, and other tenants.

Two generators of 900Kw each were located on the 5th floor and these generators were supplied by a 275 gallon day tank.

Diesel fuel distribution components were located at ground level, up to the ninth floor.



In order to supply the generators, 24,000 gallons (91,000 L) of diesel fuel were stored below ground level.


7/29/2015 2:19:36 AM Mount Arlington, NJ  
higgy51
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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)

7/29/2015 7:05:52 AM Mount Arlington, NJ  

tragicparrot
Over 1,000 Posts (1,744)
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57, joined Mar. 2014


Quote from srv63:
I have no reason to slander you dude, i don't even know you. If it in any way hurt feelings then put your big girl panties on because if your gonna attack others in this forum then you yourself be prepared to be attacked.

And don't be telling me on what i have researched because you have no clue. If i did no research as you claim, then i would still be clueless and ignorant as you shills are trying to act. Researching is what really makes the picture clearer and shows us how gullible and ignorant we once were for believing the scumbag governments official story. Btw, if this makes me a douche then them colors i wear proudly


Where is it you've shared any actual research let alone provided a clearer picture? And your references? .. I'm betting you have none. Either this, or you've run out of resources that lack integrity.

And who's doing the attacking here? Especially when all you do is post shit like this...

Quote from srv63:
Says the so called vietnam vet


Still open minded you say? Prove it.

7/29/2015 3:40:52 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

louie6332
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Higgy, you say: “Two generators of 900Kw each were located on the 5th floor and these generators were supplied by a 275 gallon day tank. Diesel fuel distribution components were located at ground level, up to the ninth floor.”

This is false, all generators were in the basement along with the diesel fuel storage. There were five generators and they were all in the basement. There were distribution transformers on upper floors, but no generators. You need to check your sources better.

Louie



[Edited 7/29/2015 3:41:54 PM ]

7/29/2015 5:02:00 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

class5
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Quote from louie6332:
Higgy, you say: “Two generators of 900Kw each were located on the 5th floor and these generators were supplied by a 275 gallon day tank. Diesel fuel distribution components were located at ground level, up to the ninth floor.”

This is false, all generators were in the basement along with the diesel fuel storage. There were five generators and they were all in the basement. There were distribution transformers on upper floors, but no generators. You need to check your sources better.

Louie


The WTC7 generators were on the fifth floor:


46-47 Mechanical floors
28-45 Salomon Smith Barney (SSB)
26-27 Standard Chartered Bank
25 Inland Revenue Service (IRS)
25 Department of Defense (DOD)
25 Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
24 Inland Revenue Service (IRS)
23 Office of Emergency Management (OEM)
22 Federal Home Loan Bank of New York
21 First State Management Group
19-21 ITT Hartford Insurance Group
19 National Association of Insurance Commissioners (NAIC)
18 Equal Opportunity Commission (EEOC)
14-17 Vacant
13 Provident Financial Management
11-13 Securities and Exchange Commission
9-10 US Secret Service
7-8 American Express Bank International
7 OEM generators and day tank
6 Switchgear, storage
5 Switchgear, generators, transformers
4 Upper level of 3rd floor, switchgear
3 Lobby, SSB Conference Center, rentable space, manage
2 Open to first floor lobby, transformer vault upper level, upper level switchgear
1 Lobby, loading docks, existing Con Ed transformer vaults, fuel storage, lower level switchgear

Louie, that took a matter of seconds to debunk. You should check your sources better.






[Edited 7/29/2015 5:04:35 PM ]

7/29/2015 5:13:51 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

srv63
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Quote from juma2112:
Quote from srv,

"The nist report? Personally i have never read that report and never will because it could only be made up by degenerates for degenerates. 

As far as any sites that you post that seem like you religiously frequent, i'm not wasting my time going by there either because they are all the same, wanting to brainwash us into believing the official bullshit story that makes not a damn bit of sense. I shill , am still open minded enough to weigh the evidence and will believe ONLY the truth and what makes sense and so far, the official gooberment account of 9/11 has more holes in it that swiss cheese"

This is what gave me the impression that u had no interest in reading ANYTHING that contradicts ur preconceived narrative.

way to seek out truth, where ever she hides.



"I only look in on this thread occasionally. 
It does seem that the general theme is 57, sv, etc. claim outrageous theories as fact, class, higgy, etc. ask for proof, and none is EVER provided (a youtube video of someone voicing an opinion is NOT evidence) 

Unsubstantiated claims/accusations seem to be more distraction than debate."

This is my post that led to ur unsubstantiated accusation of my claiming Viet Nam service.

A simple observation that u, 57, and others are loooong on theories, claims, and accusations, but short on actual evidence (as evidenced by page after page of ur posts)

Uncomplimentary? Ok, but not an attack.

As to my hurt feelings,
I dont see a punk like u hurting me in any way.


Instead of running your mouth and trying to give the persona of being mr joe cool, how about you do something constructive and focus on the forum at hand or are you like the other shills that just know how to sling mud and dispute any hard evidence before you?

By hard evidence, i mean for starters:

Explain to us what caused the stairwell to explode out from under Mr Barry Jennings feet in WTC7 on the sixth floor aas he was trying to get back down to the lobby?

Explain how the whole fuselage, tail section, jet engines as well as both enormous wings of a boeing 767 completely went into a 12 foot diameter hole in the pentacon without any part of the said plane snapping off and landing onto the pentacon lawn.

Explain why a Boeing 767 would leave a crater in shanksville but yet NO DEBRIS in that crater and miraculously the debris is found eight miles away.

Explain how a Boeing 767 can land inside a skyscraper like a hot knife going thru butter and NONE of that plane snaps off and falls to the ground below.

Explain how TWO skyscrapers and a 40 story building can have LITTLE office fires in them and they all collapse falling directly into their own footprints but yet other skyscrapers around the world have turned into BLAZING INFERNOS for many many hours and they still stand.

Explain how the impact area in the side of one of the towers is supposedly so scorching hot (enough to weaken 3 foot deep by 4 foot wide rectangular steel columns which were 4 inches thick) but yet two women are at the impact area alive and well and waving for help.

THESE are just a few answers that i want answers to and will be enough just to get you started or you can just run your big mouth and run away like a worthless shill

7/29/2015 5:53:05 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

srv63
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Quote from louie6332:
Higgy, you say: “Two generators of 900Kw each were located on the 5th floor and these generators were supplied by a 275 gallon day tank. Diesel fuel distribution components were located at ground level, up to the ninth floor.”

This is false, all generators were in the basement along with the diesel fuel storage. There were five generators and they were all in the basement. There were distribution transformers on upper floors, but no generators. You need to check your sources better.

Louie


Thank you Louie, what you just posted makes perfect sense. Why the hell on earth would some IDIOT design a building with explosive and flammable shit alongside humans that are working? especially in this day and time with the STRICTEST safety measures. Hell, both trade towers were fixing to have to have ALL of the insulation removed because it contained ASBESTOS which would have cost the new jew owner MILLIONS until the BENEFICIAL collapse of the towers.

Let the shills post their BULLSHIT from their feeble nist report, the same nist report that REAL PROFESSIONALS label as BULLSHIT as well. We know the real truth don't we

7/29/2015 5:57:37 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

naprinciple
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Quote from srv63:
Thank you Louie, what you just posted makes perfect sense. Why the hell on earth would some IDIOT design a building with explosive and flammable shit alongside humans that are working? especially in this day and time with the STRICTEST safety measures. Hell, both trade towers were fixing to have to have ALL of the insulation removed because it contained ASBESTOS which would have cost the new jew owner MILLIONS until the BENEFICIAL collapse of the towers.

Let the shills post their BULLSHIT from their feeble nist report, the same nist report that REAL PROFESSIONALS label as BULLSHIT as well. We know the real truth don't we





Never mind that diesel, in and of itself, is not explosive to begin with.

7/29/2015 5:59:20 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

srv63
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Quote from class5:
The WTC7 generators were on the fifth floor:


46-47 Mechanical floors
28-45 Salomon Smith Barney (SSB)
26-27 Standard Chartered Bank
25 Inland Revenue Service (IRS)
25 Department of Defense (DOD)
25 Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
24 Inland Revenue Service (IRS)
23 Office of Emergency Management (OEM)
22 Federal Home Loan Bank of New York
21 First State Management Group
19-21 ITT Hartford Insurance Group
19 National Association of Insurance Commissioners (NAIC)
18 Equal Opportunity Commission (EEOC)
14-17 Vacant
13 Provident Financial Management
11-13 Securities and Exchange Commission
9-10 US Secret Service
7-8 American Express Bank International
7 OEM generators and day tank
6 Switchgear, storage
5 Switchgear, generators, transformers
4 Upper level of 3rd floor, switchgear
3 Lobby, SSB Conference Center, rentable space, manage
2 Open to first floor lobby, transformer vault upper level, upper level switchgear
1 Lobby, loading docks, existing Con Ed transformer vaults, fuel storage, lower level switchgear

Louie, that took a matter of seconds to debunk. You should check your sources better.




Do you know why the generators were SUPPOSEDLY on the 5th floor shill in your BULLSHIT nist report? To try to explain the stairwell being blown out from under Barry Jennings feet on floor six. Now give us just one good reason for putting the generators on upper floors instead of the basement? To try saving the cost of running the electrical wires or maybe it was to save the cost of not buying more fuel line? Guess what shill, YOU LOSE again because NONE of us are buying it



[Edited 7/29/2015 6:02:18 PM ]

7/29/2015 6:33:42 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

57channels
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SRV

Hell, both trade towers were fixing to have to have ALL of the insulation removed because it contained ASBESTOS which would have cost the new jew owner MILLIONS until the BENEFICIAL collapse of the towers.

Let the shills post their BULLSHIT from their feeble nist report, the same nist report that REAL PROFESSIONALS label as BULLSHIT as well. We know the real truth don't we
=======================================================
Lucky Larry Jewish scumbag Silverstein. Made some 5.5 billion off his insurance scam knowing full well his buddies [Mossad] wired all 3 towers with extremely powerful explosives [ mini nukes or micro nukes ] to blow his precious towers all to dust.

The kiddies [ gooberment shills ] could care less about following the money and the motive for the biggest attack in American History [ well maybe Pearl Harbor ] The bastard took out a huge insurance policy in case of a terrorist attack[ boy oh boy what an amazing crystal ball Larry had huh ] and made some 5.5 billion.

Anyone and I mean even my grandmother [if she was alive] that believes 19 Arabs did 9-11 should be rounded up and shipped over to Iraq

7/29/2015 7:08:28 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

louie6332
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Here’s a link for the electric power backup generator engines for the twin towers. They were located in subbasement 6, the lowest level on the west side in tower 1.

Waukesha engine historical society, a world trade center survivor:
http://www.wehs.net/wtc.html

Louie

7/29/2015 7:10:37 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

class5
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Quote from srv63:
Do you know why the generators were SUPPOSEDLY on the 5th floor shill in your BULLSHIT nist report? To try to explain the stairwell being blown out from under Barry Jennings feet on floor six. Now give us just one good reason for putting the generators on upper floors instead of the basement? To try saving the cost of running the electrical wires or maybe it was to save the cost of not buying more fuel line? Guess what shill, YOU LOSE again because NONE of us are buying it


Hey Loser, there were generators on the fifth floor, and I don't care if you buy it or not. Your opinion means nothing in the real world. Got it? Now shut the f**k up, Idiot.

Your posts are just desperate reaches for cred and you're nowhere near achieving it. That was such a dumb response, but predictable, while, of course, lacking any evidence as usual. F**king muppet. LOLOL

9/11 truth: Promoting stupidity for 14 years.





[Edited 7/29/2015 7:13:28 PM ]

7/29/2015 7:11:13 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

class5
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Quote from louie6332:
Here’s a link for the electric power backup generator engines for the twin towers. They were located in subbasement 6, the lowest level on the west side in tower 1.

Waukesha engine historical society, a world trade center survivor:
http://www.wehs.net/wtc.html

Louie


We're discussing 7WTC. Please try to keep up.



7/29/2015 7:14:28 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

class5
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Quote from srv63:
Do you know why the generators were SUPPOSEDLY on the 5th floor shill in your BULLSHIT nist report?


Hey D*ckhead! You haven't read it so how would you know?

That hole is getting bigger, D*ckhead.





[Edited 7/29/2015 7:15:20 PM ]

7/29/2015 7:16:09 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

srv63
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Quote from 57channels:
SRV

Hell, both trade towers were fixing to have to have ALL of the insulation removed because it contained ASBESTOS which would have cost the new jew owner MILLIONS until the BENEFICIAL collapse of the towers.

Let the shills post their BULLSHIT from their feeble nist report, the same nist report that REAL PROFESSIONALS label as BULLSHIT as well. We know the real truth don't we
=======================================================
Lucky Larry Jewish scumbag Silverstein. Made some 5.5 billion off his insurance scam knowing full well his buddies [Mossad] wired all 3 towers with extremely powerful explosives [ mini nukes or micro nukes ] to blow his precious towers all to dust.

The kiddies [ gooberment shills ] could care less about following the money and the motive for the biggest attack in American History [ well maybe Pearl Harbor ] The bastard took out a huge insurance policy in case of a terrorist attack[ boy oh boy what an amazing crystal ball Larry had huh ] and made some 5.5 billion.

Anyone and I mean even my grandmother [if she was alive] that believes 19 Arabs did 9-11 should be rounded up and shipped over to Iraq


You know another HUGE red flag was how many weeks before 9/11 that the jew silverstein acquired the 99 year lease on the WTC complex. Look it up, something like 3 MONTHS.It is illegal nowadays to sell shit to people knowing damn well that MILLIONS in cost to remove old asbestos insulation and MILLIONS more to spray in new insulation.The port authority of New York and New Jersey knew damn well about the asbestos problem and legally have to disclose it to the new jew owner of the lease.Bet your a** the port authority big wigs were in on this as well.

One MORE tid-bit of information very few know about both twin towers. Occupancy of BOTH towers was minimal because of the outrageous cost of renting space in them. It would be fair to say that HALF of ALL FLOORS in both towers were EMPTY giving yet another reason for CONTROLLED DEMOLITION of both towers. Half of each tower has no occupants so how hard would it be to take your sweet assed time chipping away at the right walls to expose the main columns supporting the building and slap on some thermite with a paint brush and just wait for the right time to light the magnesium fuse?

No doubts in my mind that these piece of shit shills already knew about this IMPORTANT info that i just shared so i wonder why they wouldn't share it? Maybe counter productive?



[Edited 7/29/2015 7:18:18 PM ]

7/29/2015 7:18:10 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

class5
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Quote from srv63:
Thank you Louie, what you just posted makes perfect sense. Why the hell on earth would some IDIOT design a building with explosive and flammable shit alongside humans that are working? especially in this day and time with the STRICTEST safety measures. Hell, both trade towers were fixing to have to have ALL of the insulation removed because it contained ASBESTOS which would have cost the new jew owner MILLIONS until the BENEFICIAL collapse of the towers.

Let the shills post their BULLSHIT from their feeble nist report, the same nist report that REAL PROFESSIONALS label as BULLSHIT as well. We know the real truth don't we



Louie is babbling about the twins, Moron. not 7WTC.



Now, I wonder how you'll try to wriggle out of that, or will you just ignore it.



7/29/2015 7:21:10 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

class5
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Quote from srv63:
You know another HUGE red flag was how many weeks before 9/11 that the jew silverstein acquired the 99 year lease on the WTC complex. Look it up, something like 3 MONTHS.It is illegal nowadays to sell shit to people knowing damn well that MILLIONS in cost to remove old asbestos insulation and MILLIONS more to spray in new insulation.The port authority of New York and New Jersey knew damn well about the asbestos problem and legally have to disclose it to the new jew owner of the lease.Bet your a** the port authority big wigs were in on this as well.

One MORE tid-bit of information very few know about both twin towers. Occupancy of BOTH towers was minimal because of the outrageous cost of renting space in them. It would be fair to say that HALF of ALL FLOORS in both towers were EMPTY giving yet another reason for CONTROLLED DEMOLITION of both towers. Half of each tower has no occupants so how hard would it be to take your sweet assed time chipping away at the right walls to expose the main columns supporting the building and slap on some thermite with a paint brush and just wait for the right time to light the magnesium fuse?

No doubts in my mind that these piece of shit shills already knew about this IMPORTANT info that i just shared so i wonder why they wouldn't share it? Maybe counter productive?


So, you're now saying it was an insurance scam owing to the fact the complex wasn't returning enough in rent.

Is that the new one now? Are the former goalposts all gone and that's it, or is it added to the selection of conflicting material you keep bringing up?



7/29/2015 7:22:01 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

srv63
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Quote from class5:
Louie is babbling about the twins, Moron. not 7WTC.



Now, I wonder how you'll try to wriggle out of that, or will you just ignore it.



Uh Retard, i'm also talking about the twin towers. Pay less attention in your gay porno sites and a little more time researching and you would already have known which buildings i was referring to

7/29/2015 7:23:14 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

class5
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Quote from srv63:
Uh Retard, i'm also talking about the twin towers. Pay less attention in your gay porno sites and a little more time researching and you would already have known which buildings i was referring to


We were discussing 7WTC when he interjected, so don't give me that obvious Bullshit, Liar.

An obvious attempt to shift the goalposts. Remember Barry Jennings, or did you forget that, Little Moth? SRV, I catch you lying all the time, who are you kidding?





[Edited 7/29/2015 7:25:50 PM ]

7/29/2015 7:31:05 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

srv63
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Quote from naprinciple:
Never mind that diesel, in and of itself, is not explosive to begin with.


Thank you for acknowledging that. I was fixing to give these idiot shills a home science project to try that would show that diesel fuel IS NOT explosive. Any shills doubting it, come on down and visit me while i throw a lit cigarette into a 1000 gallon diesel tank

7/29/2015 7:33:35 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

srv63
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Quote from class5:
We were discussing 7WTC when he interjected, so don't give me that obvious Bullshit, Liar.

An obvious attempt to shift the goalposts. Remember Barry Jennings, or did you forget that, Little Moth? SRV, I catch you lying all the time, who are you kidding?



We been discussing allot of crap shill. Try to keep up or i'm telling your mommy to reinstate your early bed time

7/29/2015 7:38:22 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

naprinciple
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Quote from srv63:
Thank you for acknowledging that. I was fixing to give these idiot shills a home science project to try that would show that diesel fuel IS NOT explosive. Any shills doubting it, come on down and visit me while i throw a lit cigarette into a 1000 gallon diesel tank




Sophistry works because people want to be fooled. Most people's egos can't allow them to accept how badly they've been fooled.



Mark Twain — 'It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.'

7/29/2015 7:39:47 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

srv63
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Quote from class5:
So, you're now saying it was an insurance scam owing to the fact the complex wasn't returning enough in rent.

Is that the new one now? Are the former goalposts all gone and that's it, or is it added to the selection of conflicting material you keep bringing up?



Look creampuff, i'm not gonna spoon feed you every step of the way until your able to finally see the big picture. That's what your mommy is for so shush while the grown ups talk



[Edited 7/29/2015 7:40:49 PM ]

7/29/2015 8:01:39 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

srv63
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Quote from class5:
Louie is babbling about the twins, Moron. not 7WTC.



Now, I wonder how you'll try to wriggle out of that, or will you just ignore it.



After re-reading the posts, it is clear that Louie was posting facts about the generators in both the twin towers being in the BASEMENT AND the fact that the generators in WTC7 were also in the BASEMENT. Are you keeping up now creampuff?

7/29/2015 8:04:02 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

tragicparrot
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Quote from srv63:
Thank you for acknowledging that. I was fixing to give these idiot shills a home science project to try that would show that diesel fuel IS NOT explosive. Any shills doubting it, come on down and visit me while i throw a lit cigarette into a 1000 gallon diesel tank


You can sometimes perform this same test using gasoline. Not the same as compared to diesel or jet fuel having been exposed to the conditions surrounding the impacts. There is also this theory (yes, theory) where a team of Norwegian scientists claim that an explosive chemical reaction may have also been responsible for the collapse of the twin towers. Linky here...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040657/Explosions-caused-jet-fuel-water-sprinklers-brought-Twin-Towers-9-11-scientists-say.html

Then there is this...

"What about explosions or sounds like explosions before the towers collapsed, as the fires progressed? Such would not be surprising, and perhaps would be expected. During the huge fire in Madrid's Windsor building (during which the structural steel that was on the fire floors failed, leaving the building's concrete core exposed), "Explosions could be heard within the building and authorities cordoned off a zone some 500 metres in diameter in case it should collapse."

"Needless to say, that building was not hit by an airliner, nor were explosive devices suspected to be at work. In the towers there were partial floor collapses, falling elevators, likely debris falling down elevator shafts, fuel vapors igniting, bursting pipes, and perhaps steel failing, electrical systems shorting, and pressurized containers from the buildings and aircraft exploding. None of these things would be surprising during such events etc etc"

Which can be found here...

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/whattheyheard

7/29/2015 8:05:48 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

57channels
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SRV

.The port authority of New York and New Jersey knew damn well about the asbestos problem and legally have to disclose it to the new jew owner of the lease.Bet your a** the port authority big wigs were in on this as well.
====================================================
I'm guessing the big wigs of the Port AND the big wigs of the insurance companies each got a nice little chunck of Larry's 5.5 billion. A few mill here and a few mill there...no biggie when you collect 5.5 billion and who knows???? Maybe Larry got an extra 20-30 billion from Dov Zakheim....the comptroller of the Pentacon who basically stole 2.3 trillion which the taxpayers will take it up their asses I'm sure.

7/29/2015 8:13:27 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

57channels
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2.3 trillion dollas. I said 2.3 trillion dollas that the Pentacon cant account for. The insurance companies can call it " mysterious dissapearance "....but I call it " stealing " Now....with all that dough......why couldnt the camera's catch Flight 77 crashing into the Pentacon??? I can hear all those horrified voices screaming from the passengers inside Flight 77 right before it hit the Pentacon after the Arab dude who did a corkscrew 270 degree turn around all the trees and buildings and stuff and slammed her right on into the Pentacon without tearing up any grass on the lawn, and having the entire plane fold up into the size of a missile.

7/29/2015 8:17:46 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

tragicparrot
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You know srv63, you never did give an opinion on Barry Jennings original Youtube Video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3wwdI0XawI

And that tin fuselage...

Quote from srv63:
How about YOU SHOW US your proof of the tin fuselage muppet brain?

You like to demand answers, but are not forthcoming with others that ask you questions.

You will soon be ignored by the logical people as you are one that demands answers to absolute stupid questions, yet fail to answer sensible questions asked of you, like the TIN FUSELAGE.


Why is it your always asking questions, yet can never provide any answers?

7/29/2015 8:32:20 PM Mount Arlington, NJ  

tragicparrot
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Quote from 57channels:
2.3 trillion dollas. I said 2.3 trillion dollas that the Pentacon cant account for. The insurance companies can call it " mysterious dissapearance "....but I call it " stealing " Now....with all that dough......why couldnt the camera's catch Flight 77 crashing into the Pentacon??? I can hear all those horrified voices screaming from the passengers inside Flight 77 right before it hit the Pentacon after the Arab dude who did a corkscrew 270 degree turn around all the trees and buildings and stuff and slammed her right on into the Pentacon without tearing up any grass on the lawn, and having the entire plane fold up into the size of a missile.


As pointed out earlier in this thread, the 2.3 trillion was not missing, but simply couldn't be accounted for. Linky explaining what happened...

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Missing_Trillions

The pentagon photo's have already been explained as well.

How about NOT posting the same old crap over and over again. This proves nothing.



progrocknic - Mount Arlington, NJ